Wentworth Miller has an elaborate plan that involves breaking himself and Dominic Purcell out of prison.

What show is this?

ya that was stupid.

also this was another pair of villains who couldve been defeated by running up to them with super speed and taking the weapons out of their hands. the "going slower" line/plan was just incredibly dumb

It was like, wait a second, so one blast from the cold gun had him incapacitated on the ground for a minute causing Eddie to run in with the shield and save his ass, but he could take blasts from both sides for 30 seconds while slowly moving forward to align the beams, then speed off?

And no ones mentioned the fact that a cop could have just shot both of them in the head but instead they just surrounded them and Barry like kids on a playground watching a fight.

But, it's a TV show, and if Barry had even a fraction of the power he does in the comics, these nerfed TV villains wouldn't have a chance and we wouldn't have anything to watch.

how does he handle them in the books?
Captain cold must be the ****tiest villain ever since anyone can take his weapon

Well, no.

In the comics Cold is not nerfed either.

Bunch of posts complaining about stupid stuff. Yes the Flash can speed up and punch anyone in the face. Just pretend you're watching fiction.

Cause I really liked that episode. Cold is fun. "Seat belt".

I think the problem is that it just does not make any sense on a logical level. Anyone with half a brain would defeat them quite easily, yet Barry who is supposed to be smart is basically the dumbest person possible when facing villains. You also have the consistency issues with him getting hit by the ice in the past and getting hurt, but now suddenly he can get burned and frozen alive with ease.

I am not sure how to "fix" this issue but they should at least give the villains stronger powers to negate this. It would be nice if the show writers executed this better.

it's probably been said, but man oh man, them Burrows/Scofield brothers put on a terrible acting clinic

I love how everyone complains about this but nobodys mentioned the 'absolute hot' comment

Bottom line in a show like this is you have to be able to accept and shrug off all the scientifically and powers-y 'meh' moments and enjoy it for what it is.

It's possible on all the other shows. Even smallville.
They make it REALLY hard on flash

what is absolute hot anyways, temperature at the start of the big bang?

Anyone else think of Zelda OoT and the Desert Temple witches boss with the crossing of the fire and ice streams? And the shield thing?

/hugenerd

Absolute hot is a thing - just like absolute zero.

On the Kelvin scale, (which is basically just C+ 276 or F+255) absolute zero is 0K and absolute hot is theorized to be on the order of 10^32K.

The reason this was stupid in the show was because at those temperatures, silly 'heat shields' are just not possible, and that anything Heat Wave's gun torched would basically be instantly vaporized and converted to energy.

Let's skip over the science of a human traveling at several hundred mph via running too. Just cleaning a room he breaks multiple laws of physics.

Fundamentally if you are picking holes in the factual scientific basis for anything in The Flash you're a ****ing idiot.

My point exactly

In case this was some sort of question, Captain Cold's sis is a villianess named Golden Glider. In the tv show, she is going to be played by one of the ladies from Forever People, but the character won't appear until next season.

I guess it means it will be back to the deep freeze for Captain Cold.

lol in what universe was touchofevil's post a question?

you just wanted to show off

Perhaps he was wondering why Captain Cold said that.

then why no question mark? why no "does anyone know what that means?"

he was clearly just quoting the line

I think you need to suspend disbelief when watching any show based on a comic, however my main gripe with the show is not at the scientific level. You would think that a very intelligent person such as Barry could think of a better way of handling all these villains. The way some things are done are fine but with Captain Cold he simply has an ice gun. It's hard to believe that a guy with a gun can shoot someone who is running a few hundred miles per hour.

I have never read the comics so I do not know any back story, but could they have made the Flash run slower around the ice? Maybe give Cold an ice aura type of effect so Barry cannot get close to him without slowing down? I think it's common in fantasy for extreme colds to slow down people so I would have an easier time believing the Flash cannot run as fast if he gets close to him. If they made it so that he was not able to just run up and punch the guy then I think him getting shot with both guns to "cross the streams" would be easier to swallow.

Just my thoughts. I'm still going to watch the show as I am enjoying it.

Suspension of Disbelief people.

It's not that hard.

Enjoy the show.

Printingmoney is now nit tarding up both the Arrow and Flash thread.

You a paid Marvel troll?

Not sure I agree with nit tarding since I stated I enjoy and will continue watching both shows. They are probably the only two shows I am watching that aren't on a premium channel. With arrow which has been going on for three seasons my only problem and concern is with the Laurel storyline which just seems to take the "unrealistic" theme to a whole another level. To me Arrow has a lot more realism than the flash. I prefer the more realistic aspects of the show vs the obvious supernatural themes of the flash. As stated, I do not know much about the comics, but the back story that they gave Sarah was she was trained as a very deadly assassin. Now they are replacing her with Laurel. There is a huge difference in how they portrayed both characters.

If it makes you feel better I saw about 7 episodes of agents of shield and dropped it so thanks for the unwarranted animosity towards me.