Fair enough, I just kind of feel like people are exaggerating how much better those seasons were. Those were my favorite seasons too, but I don't think the other seasons have been significantly worse and/or less plausible, worse acting, etc.

I agree with you the nit picking is insane. Even on small stuff. I guess I like the show more than others/can look past some stuff.

The thing is all the little things add up. One thing by itself is easy to overlook, but when it's 'one little thing' in every scene, that is when you notice it and you start to nitpick

I was just referring to Dexter kid age like it matters much.

this is a really good post. and i rarely say anything positive about someone else's post.

You'd think Dexter's reaction would be "WTF, why are you burning DVDs showing I'm a serial killer? And why did you digitize all your old tapes? What if someone found these you ****ing idiot?!" but instead it's more like "hey, there are some issues I'm having trouble dealing with, can I get some therapy?"

The "previously on" made me remember something that cracked me up in week one. The babysitter is crying out "Don't stop, don't stop, don't stop!" but Quinn is literally just lying there not doing anything.

didnt think id say this but if next week sucks as bad im just gonna go spoil my ass with a 1 page book sumary to know how this **** ends.

who's with me

spoiler: the books have nothing to do with the show anymore, and even if they did, they haven't writing the series yet.

One of the positives of episode 2 is that Deb now fits the code.

There is potential for it to come to Dexter killing Deb because of the code and for his own survival (if she does seem like a threat to rat him out as she grows more and more unstable or if she continues to kill), or Dexter contemplating it, getting her close to the point of the kill, then having a breakdown and turning himself in (I wouldn't be happy with this as the ending, but I could see it as a non-zero chance it ends like this). Heck if Deb turns into a regular killer the show could even go the route of her feeling so much resentment about Dexter "turning" her into a killer that she kills him/tries to kill him...(maybe the final episode features a Dexter/Deb showdown where Dex follows Deb as she is on a kill, the police comes with both them at the scene in time to arrest both them and they both end up in jail as murderers).

Vogel can even turn against Dexter and get the police on him if she feels like Dexter serves no purpose or is a risk of killing or exposing her. Would be a lesson to Dexter to trust no one with his dark passenger.

I feel like if the writers play their cards right (a big if), between some Deb possibilities or the Vogel possibilities this season can be strong...

they haven't written*

should've edited my post when I still could

Although some of it is nitpicking I don't think people would be so inclined to nitpick if the show was actually working. The problem is, it isn't, and the reasons why aren't small or few in number either.

At what point do you get plot committed exactly? Because some peoples have been whining about this show for what, 4 seasons now ?

love the convenient placement of the sign right next to the cabin lol

I for one thought that season 5 might've been it. Then hoped season 6 would be. Thought 7 would be as well, but nope.

Had I know after S5 that there would be 3 more, I'd have tuned out till final season, though Sarah in S7 forced me to watch that one.

The last few minutes of the prior finale and the "previously on..." is plenty of info to start a season of this show with.

I gotta do a re-watch this week(only seen past seasons once). But 1) is Deb walking in while Dexter is stabbing Tom hanks' son. 2) is deb sitting on his couch with all his blood slides out as he walks in. 3) maybe Deb telling dexter she was in love with him.....

The whole Deb Dexter relationship has always been the best parts of the show for me. Her finding out he was a serial killer, and what we she do about it? And he admitting her being in love with him, and would they have sex or be a couple. I still want to see them have sex at least. Maybe Carpenter won't let it happen since she broke up with him in real life because he cheated irl with julia styles. So if they ever thought bout going there on the show maybe she said noway am i gonna do love scenes with my ex who cheated on me.

seriously?

I always say that they should have killed off one of the kids instead of Rita. Trinity killed 10-year old boys, Cody was like 10. It wouldn't have been that much of a stretch. Also that kid actor was annoying as hell and as useful as a lamp.
Dexter being that single dad is the worst thing that could have happened to the show because no-one ****ing cares. It lead to all the other **** seasons. Surely not the only reason for the show's decrease in quality but the trigger for a lot of problems the show now has.

yeah well if i didn't know this was the last season, and say they announced that bc the ratings are strong they've been extended through S10 with no plans to stop (S12?), i'd definitely quit the show. i'm only really still watching bc i can see the finish line. last ep was one of the first i can remember checking the time hoping it was almost over, etc.

and yeah i mostly haven't liked it since S5, but i guess there have been enough good moments to keep me watching.

I'm getting the feeling that the writers, thinking of us as idiots, want the viewers to think that Vogel is the newest killer - she is a neurosurgeon after all. But it's too ****ing obvious that it could be her, which is why it probably isn't her. Do you guys think the newest killer is someone that we already know, or someone new?

Also, call it nit picking if you want but...if you compare the two scenes, one where they originally show the guy asphyxiating the other guy in the chair, and the other scene which shows it being taped - if there was someone actually taping it, we would definitely be able to see the person from the angle that the original asphyxiation takes place. In the first scene you can see a fairly wide view, including the entire right side of the chair, and supposedly that's exactly where the person doing the filming was standing.

Maybe she's just controlling her serial killer patients, getting them to kill people she wants dead. The first guy was a mechanic and we see that she has a car in the last episode.

Are you saying seriously bout what my favorite parts of the show were? Or the Michael C. Hall and Julia styles thing? If you google them it says she was rumored to have caused the breakup. But Julia responded saying she didn't cause the breakup but didn't answer whether they had an affair or not. Some speculate affair could have been while him and carpenter were already seperated.

I had a lot of moments in the early seasons where I was more than happy to suspend my disbelief, because the overall writing and characterization of the show was so good. I didn't care about there being all those small inconsistencies.

Then two things happened.

1. The writing got worse and worse, so the little inconsistencies started bothering me, as there was nothing in the characters or the story to soothe me.

2. The small inconsistencies actually became big inconsistencies.

I'm 100% plot committed, though.

So what are the odds Deb dies this season?

The odds Dexter gets caught?

I think both are fairly high, and think both will happen.

Only question now is which of these will have sex:


[ ] Dex and Vogel
[ ] Dex and Deb
[ ] Deb and Vogel

This is what I think too. Seems obvious. But I don't really care as I hate this show now. The only reason I am still watching I because why quit now so close to he end. It ran its course seasons ago.

About Vogel being too obvious as the killer (or the one who controls the killers), please remember season 6 and the whole ghost thing. Also, most seasons have dexter's enemy starting as his friend and ending up dead. Brian, Lila, Miguel, Trinity, etc.