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11-18-2010 , 08:36 AM
Shirley doesnt remember what happened on Halloween, no one does thanks to the government forget me nows. Troy only knows because of the voicemail.

Shirley having a half black, half Chinese baby with a Jewish guy has plenty of comedy to be mined.
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11-18-2010 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
how come he just doesnt leave his backpack at home? you dont get graded on whether you show up with a backpack.
Troy had the cushion in his backpack so he could slep more comfortably
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11-18-2010 , 10:48 AM
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Troy had the cushion in his backpack so he could slep more comfortably
ya, that makes sense. sorry if its been discussed but shirley was saying brita and her are the same age, how old are they?
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11-18-2010 , 11:04 AM
Britta is 28 as is Gillian who plays her.

Shirley it isnt mentioned but Yvette who plays her is 39 and her kids seemed to be around 13 so that is probably about right.

Jeff's age isnt mentioned either but Joel McHale is 38 which links in with why Britta mocked Shirley for saying they are the same age but Jeff didnt say anything when she later said they were the same age.

Without the show specifying it seems safe to assume they are all playing their real life ages. The exceptions of course are Annie, Danny and Donald who are 26, 31 and 27 but are all implied to have joined straight after school.
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11-18-2010 , 11:10 AM
AJ,
It's just ... lets think before we...

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11-18-2010 , 11:12 AM
lol @ u pudgy

they have never discussed how old the characters are they play on the show?
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11-18-2010 , 11:48 AM
Abed was keeping track of the cycles because he's super-observant (it's his super power) but has trouble reading people (his hatred of bottle episodes, etc). He noticed a trend of the girls responding differently on certain days so he tracked the parretn before he realized they were menstrual cycles.

The monkey stealing the pen is actually visible. When Troy says "I wanna lick it!" Annie's Boobs steals it.
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11-18-2010 , 11:57 AM
ok thanks, thats a good post
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11-18-2010 , 12:13 PM
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11-18-2010 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
lol @ u pudgy

they have never discussed how old the characters are they play on the show?

Shirley was making the comparison to Britta's age to make herself feel younger. She's obviously older than the other girls and Britta calls her on out it.

Your entire post was very strange. You thought the episode was hilarious but tons of really obvious things left you confused... and you watched it twice.
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11-18-2010 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KneeCo
I think you guys are underestimating the main point here:

NBC doesn't have anything. At all.

Concluding that NBC is happy with Community cause they're ordering extra episodes, they're keeping it up against the BBT, and it's leading into a new show, etc... is all silly in light of the simply fact that NBC has got nothing going at the moment. There's no real alternative that they are favouring Community over.

This is great news for Community fans, of course, as it means good things for the shows prospects at longevity.

I would rather NBC had crafted out a second night of 8-10 sitcoms than the three hour Thursday block, if they had decided to open another night to comedy, that is something that I would guess would have a great chance of carrying over to next year.

That said: lolNBC. It's sweeps and their most popular drama is "Parenthood" with it's 2.1/18-49.

Community isn't going anywhere.
The only wildcard w/r/t the potential longevity of awesome but mediocre-ly rated NBC series (e.g. Community / Parks & Rec) is the Comcast wildcard.

Once the acquisition goes through (if it does) - all NBC Universal division heads will report up to Steve Burke. He's a smart guy with a strong TV background who gets that limping along without a hit is not the way to run a broadcast network. So he may be more aggressive in pulling the plug on medicore-ly rated series and look to take more shots with development.

Burke doesn't have to conform/play along with all the ******ed development deal/Hollywood type relationships and can just run NBC Network like a business should be run focused squarely on PnL. So we shall see! (Obviously I also hope that Community / Parks & Rec enjoy long runs, love both those series.)

-Al
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11-18-2010 , 03:16 PM
Oh random thought - I should pull this but too lazy - but I'd bet that AD had >> ratings than Community.

Alot of this is because AD was on years ago when broadcast ratings were higher (broadcast ratings have dropped year over year on average for the past 20 years) - but that still tells you a little bit about how popular Community is - it's a niche show that to KneeCo's point survives only because NBC has been lol bad at development for the past several years.

-Al
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11-18-2010 , 03:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arreste...vision_ratings

Looks like the first season AD's ratings were better but by the third season the ratings dipped below Community's current level.
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11-18-2010 , 03:42 PM
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conclusion: still a ways to go to build a fan base (although we might have gained one) and i must rewatch season 1!
I was thinking about this today, i want to do a community marathon with a friend of mine because i'm 100% sure he'll love it, but i've tried this with similar friends in the past who i've just shown the best episodes to in isolated incidents, who didn't really know what to make of it because its so character/context based.

So with that in mind, if you were to make a 5 episode list for "Intro to How Hilarious Community Is", what would be on peoples lists? I think episode kinda has to be a given just because they set up so much stuff there that we take for granted and they don't really reference back on that often.
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11-18-2010 , 04:03 PM
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So with that in mind, if you were to make a 5 episode list for "Intro to How Hilarious Community Is", what would be on peoples lists?
Introduction to Statistics and Debate 109 are mandatory. They were aired one episode apart and were the turning point in the series. Prior to the Halloween and debate episodes I was mostly indifferent to the show.

Modern Warfare as well of course. The other 2 depend on you. You could go with the more fantasy type episodes like Basic Rocket Science, Epidemiology or Contemporary American Poultry or the smaller character driven episodes like last week's bottle episode (Cooperative Calligraphy) or Anthropology 101.
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11-18-2010 , 04:04 PM
if the person has seen goodfellas you should include the poulty episode...
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11-18-2010 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rendle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arreste...vision_ratings

Looks like the first season AD's ratings were better but by the third season the ratings dipped below Community's current level.
Thanks Rendle - sounds like if Community follows the same trajectory as most shows (ratings erode over time), it will consistently track with lower ratings than AD.

(Which again makes sense cause of the general erosion of the broadcast audience.)

I guess the point is that AD was a show that was always on the bubble to be canceled. We should be grateful NBC development is so bad right now, otherwise Community would probably be canceled by now, or always on the verge of cancellation.

-Al
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11-18-2010 , 04:17 PM
I was thinking just S1 for now, and i think you def need some earlier episodes for context.
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11-18-2010 , 04:23 PM
I remember Introduction to Film being a good very early one, with a great guest performance, some solid Abed stuff, etc.
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11-18-2010 , 04:23 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arreste...vision_ratings

Looks like the first season AD's ratings were better but by the third season the ratings dipped below Community's current level.
how the hell did someone watch Arrested Development and decide "eh, i dont want to watch this anymore?" absolutely mind boggling. i dont care if Fox aired it once a month at 3am, you find a way to watch it
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11-18-2010 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Conz
how the hell did someone watch Arrested Development and decide "eh, i dont want to watch this anymore?" absolutely mind boggling. i dont care if Fox aired it once a month at 3am, you find a way to watch it
I think it's pretty obvious why AD never grew a large audience:

1) Sensibility - it was pretty dark for a comedy
2) Ensemble cast - more difficult for audience to "track" characters
3) Relatability - obviously not a very relatable show for most people
4) Serialized story lines (vs. self contained episode) - if you watched a random episode of AD one might be a bit lost w/r/t certain plot points, recurring characters, call-back jokes etc.
5) Single camera format - I could be wrong on this, but I think back in 2003 there were way less single camera comedies then there are today. I wonder, for example, if Modern Family would be as big a hit in 2003 as it is today

Add that all up and it's pretty easy to see why it was never a mainstream hit.

(I get that your question was rhetorical - and I agree AD was brilliant - but obviously it's the type of show that is not for everyone - this may come as a surprise to many on this forum - but for a lot of people, the primary motivation behind watching TV is to unwind after a hard day with work or the family or something - tuning into something familiar and comforting is how a lot of people de-stress.)

-Al
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11-18-2010 , 04:30 PM
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how the hell did someone watch Arrested Development and decide "eh, i dont want to watch this anymore?" absolutely mind boggling. i dont care if Fox aired it once a month at 3am, you find a way to watch it
I caught half the pilot and didn't like what I saw. I have been kicking myself ever since I gave it a second shot and realized it was the best sitcom ever. Wasn't 'til after it had gone off the air.

I agree, though- I don't get how someone could watch like half a season and give up.
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11-18-2010 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Conz
how the hell did someone watch Arrested Development and decide "eh, i dont want to watch this anymore?" absolutely mind boggling. i dont care if Fox aired it once a month at 3am, you find a way to watch it
My wife hated it after just watching a a couple random episodes. She couldn't understand why I liked it so much. At my suggestion she started at the beginning. It grew on her and she watched the entire first season in a day. It's not a serial dramacomedy, but so much of the humour is based on knowing the characters and callbacks to previous episodes. These types of jokes often produce the biggest laugh.You miss half the jokes if you're not a regular watcher.
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11-18-2010 , 04:40 PM
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My wife hated it after just watching a a couple random episodes. She couldn't understand why I liked it so much. At my suggestion she started at the beginning. It grew on her and she watched the entire first season in a day. It's not a serial dramacomedy, but so much of the humour is based on knowing the characters and callbacks to previous episodes. These types of jokes often produce the biggest laugh.You miss half the jokes if you're not a regular watcher.
That's a really good point about the "biggest laughs" being call-backs. At least for the things I recall as being the funniest stuff on AD - that is definitely true.

(And makes alot of sense as well - having that historical knowledge coupled with the surprise of the callback probably does make for the best type of humor.)

-Al
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