I'm rooting for Walt as well but yeah it's gotta be a level. A+ for Walt marrying Lydia.

Was hoping Jesse would've banged her last season, but it was obvious quick that wasn't gonna happen.

Am I the only one who's grown to despise Jesse Pinkman?


I loved him seasons 1 and 2 but since then I can't wait for him to die. He is such an imbecile it's unreal. Wah Wah Wah all he does is cry about the 2 or 3 people he is directly responsible for killing. WTF? How about the thousands of lives he's ruining by making/dealing the blue meth? How many teens and young kids lives are going to be ruined because of that meth? How many meth head kids are going to end up like that poor kid whose father's head got crushed by the ATM?


Jesse is an effing moron and needs to die asap. I really want to see Skyler and Hank dead as well, preferably all three at the hands of Walt.


And Lydia (and her daughter) would love Heisenberg for who he truly is. THEY are worthy of his ingenuity, love and money... whereas his real family are worthless, ungrateful pukes. The story MUST conclude with a Walter/Lydia drug empire (and romantic partnership) to be satisfactory. It's the only logical conclusion to Walt's journey. He DESERVES a happy ending with Lydia. She's the kind of woman for him. Not that uber witch Skyler. Good god, I'd rather suck off a black guy in prison than be stuck in a marriage with that wench.

But this was well put, I never thought about the difference between this and Lost in terms of mythology/mysteries. "What's in the hatch?" is a mystery, "What happens to Walt?" is the plot. It's very weird that the internet does this with pretty much every show, especially given how pretty much every showrunner is pretty upfront about how they have to make **** up to fill time and radically change the plot because of real world personnel decisions and ****. Like Tuco was supposed to be a much more important character in season 2 but the actor had some other time commitment so they wrote him out earlier, stories like that happen with every show constantly.

On the other hand, at least the mysteries in this show, such as they are, are guaranteed to have answers that aren't totally ******ed.

Regarding Gilligan's influence, I dunno. Breaking Bad owes an enormous debt to The Sopranos and (especially) The Shield. IMO it's arguably better than either of those, but that's just because it's more tightly scripted and better acted and technically superior.

The Shield was about a morally bankrupt antihero making money to support his disabled child, whose illegal activities snowballed into bigger and bigger predicaments each season, punctuated by huge "WTF" moments and the eventual transition where a sidekick becomes an enemy.

On that note, watching BB and then Dexter right afterwards is hilarious.

I could see Jesse turning on Walter. I'd hope Jesse dies though. The emo whiny depressing schtick is getting old and boring.

You can really tell how populair this show has gotten by how terrible this topic has become.

Sorry if this has already been posted itt.

Jesse was an insecure, useless, whiny bitch in Seasons 1 and 2. Then his girlfriend died and he went emo. He became somewhat more useful/endearing/tolerable in the latter seasons--also, inexplicably, started to not be a total moran.

Did anyone notice in the opening of the episode Walt in front of his house with a full head of hair rockin' a beard? My guess, he pretends the cancer comes back, fakes his death with the help of Saul- who weirdly mentions "I can help you disappear" in S5. That scene was obv after ***t goes down (Tarantinoesque). He sees his neighbor Carol again and this time she drops her bags of groceries allowing the oranges to roll into the street. At first I wondered why they spent longer on this shot than they should've until I realized it's "keeping the ball (or orange in this case) rolling" and Walt will live.

i have finally caught up on this show, and can't wait to see what happens tomorrow!

QFTMFT

Nice post! A few are a bit extreme i think, but agree with the general attitude you have. Especially bout Jesse being a whiny bump on a log for how many seasons now? Wtf? And is it even Walt's fault Jesse has this dark journey? Everyone including just put the blame on Walt for everything. "Hey Jesse! You decided to get into the meth business too right? Oh and didn't you bring 2 killers(crazy 8 and cousin) out to the desert in the beginning? You didn't think there might be a chance something bad might happen? Is way out in the desert meeting a new drug distributor(who trains his dog to attack people) the place to meet? You almost got Walt and yourself killed. But for the first (OF MANY) time Walt saved your life putting him into a situation of having to murder people. So you are just as to blame for this world you're in. He didn't put a gun to your head to get into this world, in fact you were already in this world before Walt started.

Show some friggin gratitude to a man you have alot of history with. That has saved your life many many times. As Omaha has said he killed to save his own life and that of his family and friends. I know he has lied to you Jesse, but he did it for your own good because you're not man enough to hear the hard truth of what needed to be done for survival. Grow a pair before the end and have a heart to heart with Walt and say "Hey buddy, i know you did some bad stuff(i did too), but i know this is a bad world and bad things go down. But i appreciate always having my back. Let's end this friggin thing together in a blaze of glory and take all these drug lords scum out and save your family!

These dudes have been through alot together. Is there no sense kinship/blood brothers to man you been through so much with? And not once has he tried to kill or betray you. Seriously, before the show ends i'd like to see at least a small comment from Jesse to Walt that "hey i know alot of people hate you, but i get how this happened to you. I don't hate you. It coulda happened to many other decent people given the right formula." Hank should also sympathize with Walt some as well after hearing out Walt about how all this started, and how it all got out of hand. He doesn't have to like all of it knowing may have had chances to get out, but understand that it all started on a good intention of trying to help the family. And how he had Hanks back throughout as the drug kingpins kept trying to kill him.

p.s. to the trolls, keep wasting replies on asking how to ignore. Then wasting another reply on saying thank you. The thread really needs you to let us know you thank him for showing you how to ignore. How bout you guys start talking about breaking bad instead of me? What a novel idea.

Which one? You didn't quote the post so i have no idea which you are referring to? Do you mean the color theory page i posted? Thank you. Yeah it is a very interesting thing this show has decided to do. I don't get others on here who don't like to discuss it? I mean it's kinda one of the most significant things to talk about right now from the show.

Walt saves Jesse's life multiple times when he had virtually no incentive to do so. Jesse continues to complain and be useless and demand half of Walt's money after losing his half by keeping it all in one place (his car: lol) for doing basically no work (Walt cooked and brokered deal with Tuco after Jesse got bitchmade).

BTW did anyone predict the outcome of the burned teddy-bear flash forwards in S2 correctly? "Oh yeah that's probably the fallout from a plane crash Walt indirectly caused!"

Ok I only just watched last week´s episode and I just assume there has to be some serious backlash from the whole Lydia thing. I mean, here´s a multi million dollar drug operation, things are going badly and they desperately want Walt back cooking/supervising. Pretty sure the only way they would get him to do that is by threatening to do/actually do some serious damage to his family. To those saying that Walt will kill Skylar: I´m basically rooting for them to take Skylar as a hostage maybe, things don´t go well and bam! she´s dead (finally).

Can´t believe how they treated Lydia. For all the money they have made, they still act like bloody amateurs. I mean, I get how they think they are safe now and done with the business, but how in hell didn´t they come up with a way of saying "no" in a non-confrontative manner or "maybe" or something like that (or better yet "yes, but only this one last time"). By doing things the Skylar way, they must have provoked for some serious violence to come their way.

Lydia spooks easy, but she seems as ruthless and ambitious as anyone on the show. I think if "no" presents a serious problem for her it's not going to matter how nicely or rudely you phrase it. Remains to be seen how dumb/smart she is but she doesn't come across as irrational or petty, such as both Walt and Jesse routinely do. Just a pretty cold businesswoman.

Really hoping Todd kills someone tomorrow.

Todd does seem pretty likable, especially for a child-murdering meth cook with no demonstrated sense of humor.

Funny how virtually every significant character on the show has committed a criminal act at some point. Even Hank beat down Jesse and did some illegal tracking a couple times. I can't think of anything for Walt Jr but that's about the only one off the top of my head unless you go into more obscure characters.

Walt Jr could be cited for reckless driving IMO.

Yeah, but I'm talking more than minor stuff. Seems like just about everyone has committed a felony-level offense of some kind. The kindest two people are Gale and Marie probably.