I'm not attacked or offended lol I am fine with people having whatever opinion. It just boggles my mind that in the world of breaking bad the tape is considered ridiculous and a potential reason to stop watching the show.

Walt knows Hank's professional life is pretty much over as well when he turns in Walt, and Hank knows Walt is likely soon to be dead. Not sure where the big issue is with Walt showing Hank how hard he could make his life, as it's the only leverage Walt has over Hank?


It's pretty much exactly the same reasoning as with the whole poisoning Brock thing. Walt is in a really ****ty spot and he feels like he has 0 equity to come out ahead. He looks at what leverage he has and figures out a plan to increase his chances. Does it work every time? No since obv Walt doesn't know Hank or what Hank knows 100%. But sometimes it does and I don't see many scenarios where it hurts him (he's freerolling). Obv for the sake of the show it is going to work at least for a little bit.

I thought these were ridiculous also but there's a difference between 'contrivance that's unreal for the sake of action' and 'contrivance that's unlikely for the sake of plot'. In the reality of the show, we understand that air traffic control sucks and people are able to pull off elaborate train heists - we understand this is how action films work as well - but the whole ricin/brock/gus/walt plot has always had issues for me and this doesn't go to fixing any of them - key point is jesse now has murderous rage towards walt

He's trolling you, bbfg.

Is it possible there's some misremembering going on?

"This is not meth" alone should let you know they've been pushing the boundaries from time to time all the way from the beginning.

How about the planes crashing? Gus poisoning the entire cartel the way he did? The Brock poisoning (IMO the only real big loophole which gets masked by the incredible S4 ending so it doesn't really bother me at all anyway).

yep

don't really want to nit it up about this, just sayin' is all, it was a little sloppy by this show's standards

Dean Norris has ****ing killed it in these three episodes

not sure wether I understand the OP correctly but if I'm correct in thinking it's saying that the whole thing relied on way too much coincidence/unlikely stuff happening and that as a result it feels kind of cheap, I totally agree. But I think they are doing a fantastic job in making it all fit together considering they just keep claiming they have no idea where it's all going to go.

That doesn't mean that it isn't disappointing, it would have been way more fun if Jesse was able to figure it out in a more deserving/satisfying way when you consider the implications, but at least it works and advances the plot in the necessary way.

Btw I'm half way in this week's podcast (free to listen from anywhere in the world) and it's a really good one. If you can't stand circlejerking you probably should skip it but there's a lot of cool (irrelevant to the advancement of the plot) information in there.


The writers also claimed that they had no idea what the exact circumstances for the first flash forward were going to be when it first aired and they also claimed that they weren't sure how it was going to end when they started filming 5B. I used to believe their claims but those 2 just seem so crazy that I am starting to doubt them .

I agree. He's been ****ing superb.

Right, because there was nothing else informing that opinion.

Like Walt's view on protecting his family all series.

Swing and a miss, sir.

This obv.

Pretty much sums up the criticism of this week's episode.

lol when RAIDS tries to talk to other people like we talk to him.

Baltimore Jones- Horror movies are different in that the creators clearly intend for you to be along for the ride of watching characters get murdered, but it wouldn't be out of line to point out that many horror movies contain a lot of seriously problematic ****.

If you guys met someone whose favorite movies were like Hostel and Saw and I Spit on Your Grave etc. you would not think "this dude has his **** together and I feel totally comfortable letting him housesit for me".

this tho..

Would everyone agree that Walt has considered offing Hank? I'm sure he has, it's funny that his reaction to Saul's idea was acting outraged at the thought of it cause "hes family". Do you really think that if Walt was unable to come up with the confession and Hank was still all over him that he wouldn't have killed Hank?? He's clearly capable of it and Saul knows that. He could justify it to himself in a bunch of ways too, like.. well, Hank's not related to me by blood, its not my fault he married my wife's sister. Like Walt gives a **** about him come on.

Definitely. I think if it ever crossed his mind at that point to kill Hank he most certainly wouldn’t tell Saul about it unless he needed him, which he doesn't as evidence of how he handled Gus and the 10 guys in prison.

My guess of his thought process is that he might think killing him is too easy and the real challenge is keeping Hank quiet just long enough to die in 6 months because by then Hank certainly won't bring it up. That’s winning to him.

lol RAIDS

If Walt kills Hank, Marie and Skyler will both suspect him of doing it, so he'll have additional problems, and he won't have a (semi) plausible meth kingpin anymore. Also Walt knows that the DEA knows that Hank is investigating Heisenberg - he knows that Jesse thinks only Hank knows so far - but if Hank disappears, they're going to look into what he's looking into. It seems like Walt needs Hank to keep it together (and secret) at this point, because Todd is calling him about drug business and now Jesse is thinking of torching his home.

yea clearly the confession route was the best play and now that hes done that Hank isnt as big a problem so maybe it doesnt matter. I was just sayin if Walt had no other options and it came down to getting caught and going to jail or killing Hank he would definitely kill him.

I agree.

What's the difference though, they're just movies FFS.

On his way to an Emmy imo

does jesse really need to “disappear” in the sense that he needs a new identity? if they have all that money in cash he could just go drive anywhere in the states and call himself a different name until walt dies. in s2 he even got an apartment under a fake name.

I think the key difference is that it's implied that with Saul's guy, the DEA/police/whoever else would not be able to find him, whereas without Saul's guy it would be a matter of time before they caught up to him since his fake names wouldn't hold up to scrutiny etc. Remember in season two no-one was really looking for him, whereas right now Hank knows about Walt and he's just come out on bail.

If Walt kills Hank there also won't be a single antagonistic person that can ID him as H--except Jesse now, who's about to die.

He obviously has had massive incentive and opportunity to kill Hank for awhile, yet hasn't. Wonder why.

The confession was the best play only if you don't think Walt wants to kill Hank/Marie.

Walt could dream up a hundred ways to have Hank/Marie executed without putting an iota of suspicion on him.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVq_...ature=youtu.be


Walt gives wrong CD

The answer to your question is because he thought up a superior solution that didn't involve murdering his wife's sister's husband.

The mistake in your statement is that he's had incentive for a while.. Hank was completely in the dark and posed zero threat until very recently.