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Old 09-04-2015, 11:45 AM   #5701
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oh, and she also has to dodge a bitter jury which may not be so easy. meg said before she left that she doesn't hold any grudges against anyone besides vanessa. id assume james would feel the same way and would vote with meg

steve would prob get shelli's vote, and the austwins would get each others vote. john would get becky's vote. so vanessa doesn't really have automatic votes for her - in addition to having to deal with potential bitterness
I think she would be able to win votes by putting her resume on the table and laying out how she had a hand in every single eviction. She has to count on gameplay overcoming butthurt. No guarantees but it's her path to victory.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:26 PM   #5702
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also vanessa is unlikely to be good at the final 3 HOH because both parts 1 and 2 are usually more physical than mental
Part 1 is usually endurance/physical, while part 2 is mental. IIRC part 2 usually has some minor physical component to it (like stacking or moving something into place, but not what would be considered a physical challenge).

Also, she can't be that big of a dog in a physical comp with anyone but maybe Austin.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:28 PM   #5703
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

She should be a massive favorite in part 3 of HOH if she gets there. I don't think anyone beats her in "what did the evicted houseguest say." Speaking of which, if I were on the jury I am answering every question for that the opposite of what I actually would say.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:29 PM   #5704
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also vanessa is unlikely to be good at the final 3 HOH because both parts 1 and 2 are usually more physical than mental
She just beat everyone in a physical comp. Sure it only lasted 15 mins but she still won. Part 2 is a mix of both mental/physical. I like Vanessa chances but anyone could do well.
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Old 09-04-2015, 02:56 PM   #5705
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I'm counting on production making this veto comp one that Julia can't win. If she does win then interest in this season is going to drop to an all-time low.
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Old 09-04-2015, 02:59 PM   #5706
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I'm counting on production making this veto comp one that Julia can't win. If she does win then interest in this season is going to drop to an all-time low.
This

Twins are so dumb for thinking they'd be safe.
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Old 09-04-2015, 03:03 PM   #5707
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

The twins haven't understood for weeks why they'd be targeted. They are wastes of space still hoping to further their modeling careers or whatever it is they hope to do when summer camp is over.

Don't care who the hell goes home as long as it isn't John.
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Old 09-04-2015, 03:06 PM   #5708
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Rob C strangely off the Jmac and Steve bandwagon now that they are finally in a decent position. Seems odd timing.
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Old 09-04-2015, 03:20 PM   #5709
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I can't wait for someone to take John to F2 because they all think he sucks and they get romped near unanimously.
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Old 09-04-2015, 04:28 PM   #5710
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

James just said to Jeff he wants to see Vanessa in the final 2 so there's that.
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Old 09-04-2015, 05:21 PM   #5711
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I can only think that the only reason Liz and Julia aren't beneath Austin on Jokers poll is because they are splitting votes. These two girls are the definition of entitled little bitches.
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Old 09-04-2015, 06:17 PM   #5712
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

If Austin leaves Vanessa has to gun for Steve/JMac next week correct?
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Old 09-04-2015, 06:36 PM   #5713
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She prob just puts up the twins
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Old 09-04-2015, 06:39 PM   #5714
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It's unlikely Austin goes. Most likely scenario is Liz goes this week. But who knows, these dufus's might be oblivious
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:20 PM   #5715
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If noms stay the same couldn't Vanessa just vote Austin out? If John or twins win HOH they both won't put her up.
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:25 PM   #5716
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I dunno what she's planning but it'll be tough for her to keep playing everyone. I think she'll vote Liz out and make it 3 v 1 v 1. Austin will do anything for her vote, and Julia will be gunning for Steve
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:44 PM   #5717
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Dumb question since I'm a casual viewer (just watch the shows and read this thread) and have only seen 4-5 seasons.

Why do they still even have the have-not thing? They don't show the competition anymore and not even any of the consequences other than some conversations in the have-not room.

Seems like the audience doesn't care for it, might as well do away with it all together.
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:58 PM   #5718
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Vanessa overthinking stuff she thought she could get Julia to throw POV.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:21 PM   #5719
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there is no have-not competition, the HOH just names them
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:22 PM   #5720
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If noms stay the same couldn't Vanessa just vote Austin out? If John or twins win HOH they both won't put her up.
Ya but they also won't take her to the final two. She'd at least have some hope of convincing Austin or Julia to take her to the end, an option she wouldn't have with both twins in
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:25 PM   #5721
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I'm counting on production making this veto comp one that Julia can't win. If she does win then interest in this season is going to drop to an all-time low.
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Twins are so dumb for thinking they'd be safe.
Eh it would make for a ton of drama when steve has to send Vanessa or john home
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:26 PM   #5722
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She should be a massive favorite in part 3 of HOH if she gets there. I don't think anyone beats her in "what did the evicted houseguest say." Speaking of which, if I were on the jury I am answering every question for that the opposite of what I actually would say.
She's been wrong on like every theory she'd had about evicted houseguests. Plus that comp is very random. No way she's anything more than 55% to win it, if that.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:27 PM   #5723
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Part 1 is usually endurance/physical, while part 2 is mental. IIRC part 2 usually has some minor physical component to it (like stacking or moving something into place, but not what would be considered a physical challenge).

Also, she can't be that big of a dog in a physical comp with anyone but maybe Austin.
No, usually the only mental part about the part 2 HOH is knowing the order of evictions. Which everyone knows. Then it's physical to place their names wherever they're supposed to go
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:30 PM   #5724
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I think she would be able to win votes by putting her resume on the table and laying out how she had a hand in every single eviction. She has to count on gameplay overcoming butthurt. No guarantees but it's her path to victory.
Well ya of course, but they don't give them a ton of time to answer f2 questions and a lot of people may have their minds already made up. And jurors aren't the most rational, objective people
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:45 PM   #5725
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there is no have-not competition, the HOH just names them
And there are no more have-nots.
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