I agree, gotta see them having sex with actual penetration (bj doesn't count) before we can be sure.

My point was that Hector's remark doesn't really tell us anymore than we already know. It's just a suggestion and not nearly strong a suggestion as the stuff we had in BB. Prior to that remark, let's say that the probability that Gus and Max are together is X.

Are you actually saying that Hector's remark really increases your estimate for X a lot? If so, that's pretty weird.

My X was very high, so Hector's remark didn't really change it. To "validate" it, any of the things you mentioned would be fine as would a lot of other less graphic stuff. A remark by a likely homophobe about someone he hates isn't one of those things.

/nit

I love how bell-ringing occurs again and again, when a scene involves Hector.

When Mike sees the pediatrician to initiate his next move against Hector we see a ordinary bell at the door ringing - just like the one he used in Gus' and his final scene. And then we see a wheelchair exactly like the one in BB.

In the opening scene, where Hector gets bullied by Don Eladio, we hear bells (presumably goats or something) constantly in the background.
I'm sure there's more bells to come every time we get to witness Hectors frustration building up.

Isn't the probability 0 since Max is already dead in BCS?

Both have to get penetrated before we can be sure.

if neither of them cums tho, they're still technically just bicurious

You guys keep talking about how Chuck lied in that hearing. What lie did he tell? I must have missed it.

What if Ernesto actually owned the tape?

chuck lied, people died

That's ridiculous, ****ing a corpse is obviously still an option.

It is, but the corpse won't f*** back so I wouldn't say that they are together.

max is already dead tho. right?

Yes.

Yes, Max was killed by Hector at their first meeting with Don Eladio. Which is probably one of the reasons why Gus hates Hector so much.

One of the bigger accomplishments in my opinion is that they managed to set up Gus' character in BB in a way that makes it easy for viewers to root for him in BCS now.

That's a highly necrophobic view. You need to check your being-alive-privilege.

I know the show is exciting and fun and sometimes really funny, but you guys have to remember how Jimmy ends up. this is a tragedy. Someone he loves will die. I'm betting it's Kim.

If the criterion is "someone he loves", then I think Chuck is more likely than Kim.

I've thought for awhile that Kim goes down after casually stumbling upon a situation with Gus and seeing something she shouldn't have. It'll be subtle and it'll be crushing.

Kim hooks up with Chuck one time!

How could Kim and Gus interact if not by complete coincidence? It is made pretty clear that Saul and Gus don't know each other in BB.

I rewatched all of season 2 on Netflix the last week+ so I could remember all of last years storylines and catch up in time to watch the first episode of this season on amc.com before it expires in 3-4 days.

I'm currently watching it now, and Chuck has some weird shaped thumbs.

Chuck far more likely than Kim, I agree. Kim probably just has her career and soul destroyed after being ****ed over by Jimmy. If Kim does die I think suicide is most likely option (after aforementioned soul destruction). There is a scene in season two where she is on top of a parking garage and the camera follows over her shoulder and down towards the ground. It may be just another odd camera angle, we know they are certainly enamored with those, but I thought it might be some foreshadowing (they are also enamored with that) of Kim taking a long walk off a short pier.

I swear that parking garage is the same Walt goes to during the Face Off situation, but it doesn't make sense with the surrounding buildings.

Also, I will lay 2:1 at the start of any season that Kim doesn't die during the given season. I'll lay 3:1 for this season. Any takers?

Max bet on your side $100.

Note: This is how you back up your opinion that someone will die and "I'm betting it's Kim"

You're just opening yourself up to being free rolled. Too many spoilers out there. Or I guess you could be free-rolling yourself if you know something that hasn't been on the show.

FWIW, I'm on your side of this one. I think that it's very likely that Gene in Omaha has an interaction with Kim, so she can't die at any point pre-BB.

Los Polos Hermanos gets sued because someone burned their tongue on hot chicken. Gus asks his friends at Mesa Verde for a new lawyer and they recommend Kim. She goes to meet Gus to personally tell him she's the wrong person for the job. Walks in, (back)door is open and she sees Hector and Gus performing a sexual act. Hector is in shock and suffers a massive stroke. Gus shoots Kim. Mike cleans up the mess. Problem solved.

That doesn't mean that Kim can't die in Nebraska in a post-BB scene.