Like after you get in a fight with your wife, you bitch slap that ho for cheating with golf pro, and then she walks away crying....

Is it over?

Meh, there isn't much to that. It's not at all unusual for multiple defendants to have separate representation no matter how much their interests align. Really the only sign that tOSU might have been distancing themselves is that they let word out that they weren't paying for Tressel's lawyers.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the institution was taking steps (slowly) to address the cancer. Doubt it though. If Gee and Smith aren't canned pretty much immediately it's clear that this was just the expedient "solution".

Oh **** I thought it was the AD that said that, not the President of the University...... lol I can't imagine MSC ever saying something like that. I'd imagine the investigatory panel will eventually be used to fire/punish the president and/or AD. OSU athletics may be a complete ****show, but it's academics are pretty legit... I can't imagine the intellectual side of the university letting this pass.

You are probably right. I really don't remember the specifics or what was going on at the time. Tressel had to pay for his lawyers though. This was part of the NCAA punishment. I do know that.

I'm sure more will come out about the firing. I'll update if I read anything.

Seems like Michigan binked one in retaining the annual and former beatdown by your crumbling football program.

Objectively this should be way worse than USC. I'm sure it won't be, but dear god if this isn't 'lack of institutional control' im not sure what is. But of course NCAA gonna FIFA, so wahtever.

Wow you guys still don't get it at all. This article didn't have any bombshells for hardcore fans that post on internet forums and seek information about the program online, but for everyone else this is major. Some casual fans had part of the story from ESPN, but this is huge for the general public.

Every doctor's office in the country is gonna have an issue of SI in the waiting room with a cover-story about OSU's institutionalized cheating. Soccer moms, old folks, little kids etc. are all just gonna know you're that program that cheated. Just wait til' thanksgiving when extended family members who don't follow sports at all tilt the **** out of you by bringing this up. They'll know absolutely nothing outside of this story. Yet some of you still believe the NCAA will go light making themselves look bad for OSU's favor and that even after the sanctions you'll be just fine. You'll end up like Notre Dame, a high-revenue program that over pays coaches for mediocrity. Only difference is Notre Dame fans got to see their team triumph for much longer.

Try to feel good about being able to see the best 10-year run in your school's existence because it's all down-hill from here.

At least you used one of the hyphens correctly

This is very true.

wat

If I had to estimate who is hired after 2011 I'd put it at:
Fickell 60% (2-3yr extension to ride out the sanctions)
Dantonio 15%
Meyer 5%
Hazell 5%
Field 5%

It'll be annoying to hear people list Patterson/Gruden/Stoops/Dungy (people named whenever any job opens), etc. when there is no chance of that ever happening.

Other guesses?

best part about all of this is that the national media loves making fun (rightly so) of (Dr?) Gordon Geeeeee! (small silver lining... very small)

something fun to tweet at the SI dicks who destroyed OSU/Tressel

"@SIDavidEpstein @georgedohrmann plz go back 10 yrs & investigate 6 other major programs. Buckeyes aren't the only players w/ tats! #Tressel"

obv what the idiot OSU players did wasn't right, and JT/OSUs horrible cover up attempt (worse than my attempt as a 15 year old to cover up a house party thrown when the folks were out of town) but i'm nearly tired of the crucification.

Disclaimer - Huge OSU fan.

I don't think OSU will see a different coach for 5-6 years.

I think we will get sanctioned for at least 2 years, and during that time Fickle will be the coach.

I think they will give him time after that to see how well he does, but ultimately go with someone else 5-6 years from now.

Also, I'm not sure if it's been brought up, but has anyone considered that Ohio State wouldn't want Urban Meyer? I realize he is what everyone as fans would love to have (including me...I would love to pick up Meyer).

But, Meyer doesn't seem like a lifer, and that is what OSU would be looking for. Yay/Nay?

Hazell too low. Dantonio too high. Mark Stoops is one I heard as a possibility.

Gee is less an ambassador to OSUs "intellectual" side then he is a media hound who brands himself as the quirky College Prez. Making jokes about the football coach firing him as a ploy to garner favor with the local populace (who in many cases are only dimly aware that there is an actual University located near the horseshoe) is completely standard. Believe it or not, this is his second stint as the OSU president, he was there in the 90s when I was a student. Back then his face was plastered everywhere like he was Kim Jong-il or something. While very popular with the local press he was generally disparaged by the faculty. My last year there he was somehow lured away by Brown of all places, which many (including myself) found laughable. I remember a History prof had a rather nasty letter printed in the school paper predicting that the Brown faculty would run him out of town in a year or two - which is, hilariously, EXACTLY what happened. I have no idea how he got hired back at OSU, but as a graduate, I find it pretty embarrassing.

Part of it is getting run out of Vanderbilt. The other part is the awful, awful President (Karen Holbrook) before him who took the exact opposite stance. She was extremely ashamed of the fact Ohio State was a football school. Wanted to shut down all tailgating, any fun on campus, etc... On her way out at another interview, she had this to say:

"When you win a game, you riot. When you lose a game, you riot. When spring comes, you riot. African-American Heritage Festival weekend, you riot."

Gee is pretty much the exact opposite, embraces what Ohio State is (something a lot of faculty of course despises), and runs with it. But he of course gets his foot in his mouth trying to be funny saying dumb stuff. He's just one of those guys who thinks he's funnier than he actually is.

Gordon Gee is a world-class douche.

Gordon Gee is awesome. He tells Michigan jokes during his commencement speeches.

racist ban obv

Did you go to OSU? Do you care at all about the school itself?

And tc's comment about teachers not knowing what the school is about is pretty hilarious.

I didn't say they didn't know. I said they despise it. They don't have the same connection. They come in as outsiders and are ashamed of the football side of things. I know this because I had numerous professors gripe about the salary of the football coach or other things that made them feel unimportant.

They just put up with it because they like the research money or are waiting to go somewhere else that fits their uptight attitudes more.

There are exceptions, of course, and there are actually some who get into it and embrace it.

btw, there's a reasonable chance I could end up at OSU for med school... I'll make sure to **** with columbus as much as possible if that happens.

At least you'll be close to the hospital if you do try to do something so stupid.

At Michigan, there's an ultrasound tech who was an OSU fan... his whole room in the UM Childrens hospital had nothing but OSU stuff in it. That'd be me

well said

also well said

hidden brag.

The difference is your room would only stay like that for a day.