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10-09-2018 , 11:44 PM
Stanton vs Yelich is not the right comparison and is super results oriented.

Stanton was a salary dump by the Marlins, Yelich was not. For the Yankees to get Yelich they probably would have had to part ways with a Gleyber Torres and that wasn't happening.

Also, if you predicted Yelich to explode with a 166 WRC+ in 2018, you are lying. Stanton was coming off a 159 WRC+ last year and even with his struggles this year he has a pretty high floor.
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10-09-2018 , 11:46 PM
Cashman is pretty awesome.

He rented Aroldis Chapman and got Gleyber Torres in return.

He acquired lots of useful talent and didn't give up any elite prospects. It's not his fault that Sonny Gray turned out to be Javier Vazquez 2.0. The move for Gray was great when it happened.
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10-09-2018 , 11:46 PM
Fire Boone though.

Tactically inept.
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10-09-2018 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
Stanton vs Yelich is not the right comparison and is super results oriented.

Stanton was a salary dump by the Marlins, Yelich was not. For the Yankees to get Yelich they probably would have had to part ways with a Gleyber Torres and that wasn't happening.

Also, if you predicted Yelich to explode with a 166 WRC+ in 2018, you are lying. Stanton was coming off a 159 WRC+ last year and even with his struggles this year he has a pretty high floor.

Stanton is going to make 30 million dollars a year until he's 38 years old. That contract is ****ing awful in 2 years. It's easy to hit HR's when you play for a team that loses a ton of games, and you can hit bp fastballs because your team is down 10 runs. He has a hole the size of the Grand Canyon in his swing. Him and Judge on the same team is not a good fit for post season baseball.
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10-09-2018 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
Fire Boone though.



Tactically inept.


Boone is a BUFFOON.

Stanton is the biggest choke artist in all of baseball ⚾️.
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10-09-2018 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
Stanton vs Yelich is not the right comparison and is super results oriented.

Stanton was a salary dump by the Marlins, Yelich was not. For the Yankees to get Yelich they probably would have had to part ways with a Gleyber Torres and that wasn't happening.

Also, if you predicted Yelich to explode with a 166 WRC+ in 2018, you are lying. Stanton was coming off a 159 WRC+ last year and even with his struggles this year he has a pretty high floor.
I didnt expect him to be the league MVP but I was a huge advocate of getting him and not wanting Stanton. He hits and gets on base. Judge and Sanchez are plenty of power. Even last season yelich was the perfect fit in this lineup. You cant have a guy who strikes out once judge and someone else gets on every time.

I think Yelich could have been had without Torres and he was good enough to give up multiple prospects for. I've always been super high on Yeli and super down on home run hitting meatheads who dont put the ball in play.
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10-09-2018 , 11:54 PM
They said that CC was only going to go through the lineup once. 1st and 3rd with 0 outs. Why wouldn't you bring in Betances or Robertson at that point. Instead it turns into a 3 run inning because Boone wants to manage out of Bill James notebook, instead of opening his ****ing eyes and seeing that the SEASON WAS ON THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!! FIRE THIS IDIOT before the clock strikes midnight.
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10-09-2018 , 11:55 PM
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Fire Boone though.

Tactically inept.
Yes this x a million.

Also not sure how much the managed is to be blame but this is the worst defensive team I've seen in a long time and seem to make a lot of careless/stupid mistakes.

Hes mostly just totally in over his head and tactically inept though
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10-09-2018 , 11:56 PM
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Boone is a BUFFOON.

Stanton is the biggest choke artist in all of baseball New York Yankees: 27-Time World Champions️.
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10-09-2018 , 11:57 PM
After seeing what a fraud Stanton is (always had a strong idea he was though) I've changed my stance on giving mvp/cy youngs to guys who put up numbers on ****th irrelevant teams.
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10-09-2018 , 11:59 PM
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Stanton is going to make 30 million dollars a year until he's 38 years old. That contract is ****ing awful in 2 years. It's easy to hit HR's when you play for a team that loses a ton of games, and you can hit bp fastballs because your team is down 10 runs. He has a hole the size of the Grand Canyon in his swing. Him and Judge on the same team is not a good fit for post season baseball.


Lol. "Salary dump" we wouldn't find a team in baseball to take that now. He will hamstring this team for years to come. Jeter played cash so hard.

Post is so spot on. Yeli is making like 11m a year lol and is signed for a while
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10-10-2018 , 12:02 AM
LFC: do you hate Judge?

He K's a lot. It's probably not going to change.

I'm not saying Stanton is as good as Judge but the fact is they both K a lot and that in itself doesn't mean that much. I don't love Stanton myself I find him way too streaky for my liking but could do a lot worse than him (think Davis, Chris).
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10-10-2018 , 12:02 AM
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Yelich was there to be had and it was a no brainer Even before his MVP season he was a tremendous player and fits out lineup perfectly.
OMG please stop...he's was a good player not a tremendous player before this season. Even if he was on the table for the Yankees (which nobody knows at all if that was ever the case) Stanton was basically there for free and there was a fit as they were going to take Starlin Castro back which was good as it freed up 2B for Torres to come up...but sure let's go back in time and Monday QB the **** out of the season. When it's all said and done Stanton's career will be >>>>> then Yelich's AINEC.


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We finally get out from Arod, Texeira, Beltran just wait for a home run years almost by default and had a fun, exciting team again. Now we've added Stanton and it's more of the same. The question isn't who would you rather have Castro or Yelich, it's who would you rather have Stanton or Yelich (for much less money if the luxury tax is an issue and losing a few prospects who will prob never seen the Yankees regular roster anyway)?

Stanton is a great small market attraction. He is an absolute inning killer for a team with consistent postseason ambitions though.
Again your missing the point...I get it this feels like A-Rod 2.0 w/Stanton, but I don't know about you but 100 wins and 267 HRs was pretty ****ing exciting. Yeah it dragged at times but a lot of that was this team was hurt for so long with injury after injury after injury there was no life to this team. That's not Stanton's fault and in fact he was one of the few that actually didn't get hurt all season.

That said this team flat out lost to a better team. You are right on one point, this team needs a SP...but then again we said the same thing last season at this time and one wasn't available. Maybe one will be available this offseason.
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10-10-2018 , 12:02 AM
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LFC: do you hate Judge?

He K's a lot. It's probably not going to change.

I'm not saying Stanton is as good as Judge but the fact is they both K a lot and that in itself doesn't mean that much. I don't love Stanton myself I find him way too streaky for my liking but could do a lot worse than him (think Davis, Chris).
No not at all. Judge is awesome and isnt a black hole in big spots. Good fielder with a cannon too. By far our best player. Stanton isnt even near his league
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10-10-2018 , 12:04 AM
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OMG please stop...he's was a good player not a tremendous player before this season. Even if he was on the table for the Yankees (which nobody knows at all if that was ever the case) Stanton was basically there for free and there was a fit as they were going to take Starlin Castro back which was good as it freed up 2B for Torres to come up...but sure let's go back in time and Monday QB the **** out of the season. When it's all said and done Stanton's career will be >>>>> then Yelich's AINEC.




Again your missing the point...I get it this feels like A-Rod 2.0 w/Stanton, but I don't know about you but 100 wins and 267 HRs was pretty ****ing exciting. Yeah it dragged at times but a lot of that was this team was hurt for so long with injury after injury after injury there was no life to this team. That's not Stanton's fault and in fact he was one of the few that actually didn't get hurt all season.

That said this team flat out lost to a better team. You are right on one point, this team needs a SP...but then again we said the same thing last season at this time and one wasn't available. Maybe one will be available this offseason.
Stanton isn't in irrelevant Miami anymore. Now that they are both on legit playoff contenders I will bet Yeli >>> Stanton from here on out for any amount of money.

What need was there for another home run hitter who strikes out a million times and makes $30m a year for next 8 years and rises?

As for SP available and FA are two separate things. Gerrit Cole was "available" for example. I wasnt advocating for him like I was for Yeli but he was there for the right price.
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10-10-2018 , 12:05 AM
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was fun while it lasted

until 2019 bros
My Man...cheers


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10-10-2018 , 12:08 AM
FWIW A-Rod was a bit sub-par in 2004 before winning MVP's in 05 and 07 and being the post-season hero in 09.

I agree Stanton has holes in his swing and is inconsistent. He also has 39 WAR at age 28 so he's not just a useless homerun hitter who can't do anything else.

It's not even like the Yankees had a choice between Stanton and Yelich and chose Stanton. Stanton is who happened to be available for the RIGHT PRICE and it was a no-brainer.
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10-10-2018 , 12:10 AM
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FWIW A-Rod was a bit sub-par in 2004 before winning MVP's in 05 and 07 and being the post-season hero in 09.

I agree Stanton has holes in his swing and is inconsistent. He also has 39 WAR at age 28 so he's not just a useless homerun hitter who can't do anything else.

It's not even like the Yankees had a choice between Stanton and Yelich and chose Stanton. Stanton is who happened to be available for the RIGHT PRICE and it was a no-brainer.
Hes a regular season player who hits bad pitching BP fastballs. Very different in high leverage situations against good pitching.

I wouldn't call 30m a year and rising for next 8 years the right price.

Would sign Stanton to his exact current contract right now if he was a free agent?
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10-10-2018 , 12:13 AM
By right price I meant that they had to give up Starlin Castro.

Would the Marlins have taken Starlin Castro for Yelich? No, that's why you can't just say they should have gotten Yelich instead of Stanton.
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10-10-2018 , 12:15 AM
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Hes a regular season player who hits bad pitching BP fastballs. Very different in high leverage situations against good pitching.
This kind of narrative isn't very convincing. Yes, Stanton will strike out a lot.

Judge in 2017 hit a ton of solo HR's off bad pitching and failed in a lot of high-leverage situations as well, but no one calls him a choker now.
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10-10-2018 , 12:16 AM
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By right price I meant that they had to give up Starlin Castro.

Would the Marlins have taken Starlin Castro for Yelich? No, that's why you can't just say they should have gotten Yelich.
So give him Austin Frazier Sheffield. A package could be made without Torres certainly. There's a bunch of assets that will never feature for the Yankees.

The price for Stanton wasnt Castro it was having to pay him a contract which was designed to pay him much less in the beginning and let a team absorb the meat of him which the Yankees stupidly did
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10-10-2018 , 12:16 AM
Jeter is smart. He knew the only team dumb enough to take on Stanton's contract was the Yankees. He saw them do that time and time again, and saw the chalk on their back.
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10-10-2018 , 12:18 AM
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This kind of narrative isn't very convincing. Yes, Stanton will strike out a lot.

Judge in 2017 hit a ton of solo HR's off bad pitching and failed in a lot of high-leverage situations as well, but no one calls him a choker now.
Lol Judge was 25 years old and in his first full season. Stanton won an MVP last season. Like are you actually comparing the two things?

Judge has continued to improve and there's not a player in baseball I'd rather have up than him. Judge is awesome.
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10-10-2018 , 12:21 AM
Well you are calling Stanton a choker based on 1 season?

You probably would have traded away A-Rod for nothing in 2006 then?
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10-10-2018 , 12:21 AM
Stanton has Soriano disease where he can't lay off the slider in the dirt.
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