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06-19-2013 , 01:16 PM
heat don't get rid of Wade no matter how much sense it makes and I don't want Wade. Body is constantly breaking down and I don't know how he's an ideal fit either we need guys that can shoot.
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06-19-2013 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
heat don't get rid of Wade no matter how much sense it makes and I don't want Wade. Body is constantly breaking down and I don't know how he's an ideal fit either we need guys that can shoot.
Wade is getting paid a ****-ton of money too. No way Miami does it either. Now if we pulled off the deal for Chandler somehow, and if Miami did offer up Wade for PEK, and if we somehow made the salaries work, (basically zero chance all that happens, but...) I think Wade could find a way to fit in & be very productive if he was healthy. Shooters are relatively cheap & easy to find. Players like Wade are not.

PEK fits great on basically every team, including the Wolves. I want to keep him even if we got Chandler in that other deal (unlikely, but omg, what a front court trio that would be).

The Chandler rumor was started in NY as far as I know. Maybe they overvalue DW or something. They obviously dont like Chandler's contract. It seems ridiculously lopsided in our favor though, and probably is very unlikely. Chandler is a great player.
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06-19-2013 , 04:26 PM
pek gone get 12-13mill, dwill is at 4-5mill so i think the salaries more or less work no?

either way i wanna see wolves make moves this off season
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06-19-2013 , 04:49 PM
I hope this is right:

Dan Barrerio and Jerry Zgoda: No Shabazz Muhammad for Timberwolves

By X-Ray Specs on Jun 19 2013,


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There is a better chance Wolves would re-draft Ndudi Ebi than they will take Shabazz Muhammad in first round
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06-20-2013 , 08:23 PM
I'm coming around to the point I wont be disappointed if we draft this guy at 9: http://i.imgur.com/MpimAC3.jpg

Long arms and seemingly the attitude that he wants to work hard to be a success. I'd still rather have KCP if he's available. Sitting at 9 and getting one of those guys or maybe McLemore if he slides down would be good imo. If all those guys are gone, I might take Zeller. The drawback on trading up for Oladipo (in addition to giving up assets) is the higher salary we'd have to pay, but I'd still be fine with trading up for him or Porter.

No Len & no Shabazz at 9 & I'll probably be happy.
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06-21-2013 , 02:24 PM
Len might go #1. Don't think you'll have to worry about being disappointed when the wolves take him ninth
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06-21-2013 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Len might go #1. Don't think you'll have to worry about being disappointed when the wolves take him ninth
lol @ the team who picks him that high.
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06-23-2013 , 04:03 PM
I think KCP would be a great fit for the Wolves. Hes not a great creator but with Rubio he doesn't have to be. Plus he can shoot which is desperately needed.
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06-23-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TakeItSleazy
I think KCP would be a great fit for the Wolves. Hes not a great creator but with Rubio he doesn't have to be. Plus he can shoot which is desperately needed.
He can defend well too, and he's legit NBA SG size. The more I read about this guy, the more I want him. Hopefully he's there at 9. I'm starting to think trading up wont happen.
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06-24-2013 , 02:52 AM
AORN, my thoughts on the likely guys for the Wolves are:

- KCP: Would love to take him at #9 and would salivate if they could trade down and still snag him but I think if they stand pat and he's available, he has to be the pick. Wolves cannot keep plugging their gaping hole at SG with guys who aren't naturals at the position. He could average 10-12 PPG as a rookie with a healthy Love and re-signed Pek alongside Rubio creating.

- McCollum: Like him a lot but think he'll be gone before Wolves pick. The question is - is he that much better than KCP that you'd give up other assets to trade up to get him. I do like that he could take away some of the ballhandling duties from Rubio and thereby negate our need for Ridnour or Barea since he can slide to PG whereas KCP really can't. I think this guy is going to make whoever takes him very happy.

- Oladipo: I really don't like the thought of giving up what would probably be our biggest trade chip (D-Will) and/or draft picks to get him. His perimeter D would be a great matchup with Rubio but the Wolves would still lack a guy who can knock it down from the arc. Agreed on the higher salary as well since they'd have to trade up. Lots of positives to trading up including the fact that it could be done, but more negatives imo.

- Len: Re-sign Pek and taking him isn't necessary. Not a big fan to be honest. Wolves have so many more needs that using their top pick on a center who would be Pek's backup is so meh. I don't think Flip will go this route anyway. His ankle issues are a major concern to me.

- Bazzy: Please no. Just don't. Forget he's even out there. A dynamic scorer for sure, but a head case who will be a locker room cancer.

I really can't see the Wolves taking any other player besides one of these guys unless they trade up/down. Overall, I think that McCollum has the highest ceiling but KCP is the best fit if the Wolves intend to re-sign Pek. I would be happy with either one but am really loving the thought of a long back court of Rubio (6'4") and KCP (6'6").
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06-25-2013 , 01:11 AM
yea kcp is the best pick at #9

i seen on bleacher report than rudy gobbert a 7'2 center with a 7'8 wingspan from france can fall to us at the #20 pick... hes thin & abit raw but that wingspan + athletic ability what wolves lacked at the center position so hopefully he can turn into a good player with time cause although yall are sold on pek im not

pek too injury proned & with 0 ability to help defend & clean up mistakes on the defensive end i really dont like 12mill a year for a guy who can only score inside the paint & defend big centers in the paint

just wanna see wolves go injury free in 2013-2014
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06-25-2013 , 02:31 AM
we don't have the #20 pick though. We have #26.
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06-25-2013 , 12:19 PM
Good post ACG2x


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Originally Posted by Exothermic
yea kcp is the best pick at #9

i seen on bleacher report than rudy gobbert a 7'2 center with a 7'8 wingspan from france can fall to us at the #20 pick... hes thin & abit raw but that wingspan + athletic ability what wolves lacked at the center position so hopefully he can turn into a good player with time cause although yall are sold on pek im not

pek too injury proned & with 0 ability to help defend & clean up mistakes on the defensive end i really dont like 12mill a year for a guy who can only score inside the paint & defend big centers in the paint

just wanna see wolves go injury free in 2013-2014
Gobert is more than a bit raw. He's uncoordinated and a long shot to ever be productive at the NBA level. I'd take him with a middle to late 2nd round pick, but not #26. I like Muscala or Adams much better at 26.

PEK does a lot more defensively than defend big Cs. He's very solid at everything other than help-side shot blocking. He has quick feet and is stronger than every other player in the NBA. I'd rather pay less than $12m for him too, but that's definitely in the range of his value vs other comparable NBA Cs.

Injury free with PEK, AK47, Bud and a new starting SG on the roster is my wish list.
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06-25-2013 , 12:36 PM
One more wish - I want us to draft this guy at 26: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...nterview-4226/
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06-25-2013 , 02:12 PM
Those videos are always well done, for sharing cha.
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06-25-2013 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cha59
Gobert is more than a bit raw. He's uncoordinated and a long shot to ever be productive at the NBA level. I'd take him with a middle to late 2nd round pick, but not #26. I like Muscala or Adams much better at 26.
Adams won't be there at 26.

If someone maxes PEK, do you match?
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06-25-2013 , 11:53 PM
Is it assumed we're bringing back Bud and AK?
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06-26-2013 , 12:03 AM
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Is it assumed we're bringing back Bud and AK?
AK has a player option for $10m next year, read today he may opt out and take less than that next year for a longer deal with more guaranteed. Maybe 3 and $25m? i don't really know I'm just making up numbers.
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06-26-2013 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by minnesotasam
Those videos are always well done, for sharing cha.
glad to know you like them

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Originally Posted by Halstad
Adams won't be there at 26.

If someone maxes PEK, do you match?
I would but from what I'm hearing, the Wolves wont.

I'm hearing that POR is going to go hard after him, but they only have $10.6mil to offer for the 1st year, so I think we'd match that.

There could be some other teams with mega cap room out there that would go hard after PEK & offer way more than that after they fail to land D Howard, but there's a good chance PEK will be signed before those teams make him an offer.

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Is it assumed we're bringing back Bud and AK?
Bud, probably yes.

People seem to think AK is likely to opt out. It pisses me off that Flip seems to be ignoring a player like AK47 and talking about how much
he likes OJ Mayo. If we end up overpaying Mayo and letting AK and/or PEK walk, I'm going to be very upset.
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06-26-2013 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
AK has a player option for $10m next year, read today he may opt out and take less than that next year for a longer deal with more guaranteed. Maybe 3 and $25m? i don't really know I'm just making up numbers.
yeah, I wouldnt be surprised if that's close to what he wants. It seems the Wolves dont want him at whatever price he's asking for on the extension. He's not a good shooter, but he does everything else so well that he's a huge asset. Flip has blinders on looking for shooters.
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06-26-2013 , 05:12 PM
This is pretty good: http://www.canishoopus.com/2013/6/26...ts-by-position

I've come around on McCollum. I think he has a shot to be a good player on this team.

Zeller will probably be a good NBA player too. He doesnt really fit well on the Wolves, but if we traded DW (or probably even if we dont) he could get some playing time as a third big behind Love & PEK. I'm fine if he's there at 9 & we take him.
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06-26-2013 , 06:10 PM
I still like this guy too:
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-...pe_761041.html

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Elevated his play in clutch situations. Scored 31 percent of his 332 points in SEC games during the last five minutes, shooting 65 percent from the field, 63 percent from 3-point range and 83 percent from the FT line.
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06-26-2013 , 09:50 PM
yea wtf@ drafting zeller when we need a 2guard so badly

kcp is the best choice or trade up for oladipo

if we want zeller or even plumlee we can maybe trade d.williams or shved to dallas for #13 pick maybe or a higher pick
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06-26-2013 , 11:43 PM
Dallas wants cap relief. They arent going to take on more salary in exchange for that pick. They'll give that pick away to someone willing to take dead weight contracts.
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