Whatever the professional consensus is, or whatever the scout sites say, or whatever the advanced stats say dont matter to Kahn. Whoever passes his eyeball test gets picked, and its not likely to be the player who is most likely to succeed. If there's a guy who has a nice smile and a firm handshake who has the best chance of failing at NBA basketball, that's who we'll probably wind up with.

i'm not really sure why you are so adamant about that. iirc you liked the rubio pick, i know i was fine with the flynn pick (i was wrong) so i can't blame him for that...and wes johnson pick was fine considering that cousins basically said he didn't want to play here and tried to avoid us.

his drafts haven't worked out so far, but it's a tiny sample size and i don't think they've even been that bad.

(fwiw i hate kahn too just because of his personality, but my point is it's results oriented to call him a terrible drafter)

Why hasn't Rambis been fired by now?

Its not just the results - its the thought process he uses that I hate.

Taylor is the worst owner in pro sports. I think he has trouble making a decision, and takes too long to make up his mind. And this is a decision he has to approve - he isnt giving Kahn full authority to do it. If you have a GM who you dont trust to make decisions like these, why is he your GM in the first place?

Not sure Taylor can be the worst. I don't think there can be a discussion unless the Clippers ever get sold. But Taylor does seem to be pretty weak in a lot of ways.

Kahn likely isn't very good at making basketball decisions given his track record and confusing "plan" that is all over the place. The Twolves should do anything they can imo to get the Blazer's former GM (Pritchard? something like that) and, if he's compatible, Adelman (even though I cringe as I say that). And then Taylor should just get the F out the way.

To keep it simple for him, this is the plan he should follow:

Pritchard
Adelman
#1 Draft Pick
????
Profit

yeah, i think he will butcher every draft position. im really worried about him taking a euro center @ #1 or something stupid like that because of his belief in Rubio.

Don't get me wrong, I think Rubio can be a good player, but Irving imo is more talented and would play for us if we drafted him. Who knows if Rubio is still coming over this year or not.

iirc we were one of the few teams that didn't do a private workout for him.

I think Wes Johnson can still be a good player, he was playing out of position too much this last year in a complex offense as a Rookie. I am worried at how tentative he was at times, but he has all the physical tools to be a starter.

this is what i am hoping for.

Rumor mill here, but apparently we will not go after Pritchard because Taylor does not like him(probably from him owning us in so many trades).

both of those guys are top tier at their jobs imo, and we'd be really fortunate to get one or both of them.

There's a good chance Donnie Walsh will be done with the Knicks after their season ends. He'd be good for us.

I think there is some history between Taylor & Pritchard that would prevent Taylor from hiring him. I think it involves a lot more than owning us in trades, but I dont remember exactly what it is.

I do like Yugo's suggestions though. To make it more real (imo), I'd put Walsh in there instead of Pritchard. There are probably plenty of other good candidates out there as well. Lets hope if Kahn goes that we actually hire a good one this time.

Adleman would be near the top of the want list for coaches, along with Sloan, and I heard that Carlisle might be gone if Dallas goes out of the playoffs early - I like him as a possibility if that happens.

I am way less high on Wes than I was early in the year. I do think he has a chance to be a decent contributor (under a good coach), but I dont think he'll ever be a star. He definitely has some nice springs in his legs. I think his outside shooting might have been over-hyped. His best position is the 3, and I think he'd do better learning how to post people up than trying to beat people off the dribble. The offense in general and the way they asked him to play definitely didnt fit what he is best at. Rambis excels at putting his players in a position to fail - it often looks like he's trying to embarrass them (remember when he had Love trying to guard Carmello?). That being said, I think there were other, better players we could have taken instead of Wes if we didnt want Cousins.

Why is Donnie Walsh good?

Pritchard or bust imo .

There is history of me hating Adelman, but I can set aside differences, lol, :P.

Walsh > Kahn. I dunno how good Walsh is, but he's a professional and seems competent, unlike Kahn.

I didnt used to like Adleman much, but after watching his teams over the years, I respect him more now than I used to. Again, just like having a professional GM, having a respectable, professional head coach would be a large step up from what we have. I dont know if he'd be the best choice, but we could do a lot worse.

Oh c'mon, that's not saying anything, lol.

I'd rather have some degenerate spaz-monkey like Raptor or Good2cu as the GM over Kahn at this point.

Yeah. I do love your (or someone else's) idea of trying to bring in Doug Collins (obv he's not available). Someone like that for ~2 years would be perfect. Just run the **** out of everyone, hold everyone accountable, then transition to a coach like Adelman or whoever.

lol


I think maybe wuwei mentioned Collins? I thought someone like Skiles would do well too. Of course neither is available, nor is Bill Musselman , who would be the king as far as that type of coaching goes imo.

Guess I'm the only one who thinks Kahn's done a pretty good job with the exception of drafting Flynn...

If he keeps his job & you pay attention, you'll come around eventually.

What about giving Darko twice as much as any other team would of have?

I don't think Kahn has done that bad. The one thing that he has done is give this team a lot of options. Mchale really screwed this team over imo, and the team from 2 years ago had no future.

With this team, we have youth and a slew of young guys. none of them have turned out to be a star(other than love i guess), but they are removing players with no upside(brewer, Ryan Gomes, etc) and replacing them with people that have at least some sort of potential(Webster, Wes johnson, Beasley, Randolph)

None of them have a decent shot at ever being really good, but they all have upside and they are all pretty cheap.


I wouldn't be against seeing what Kahn does in this next draft with a competent coach. The wolves were very competitive in stretches all the way up to the last month or so of the season. Seeing one more draft, and a different coaching scheme will sway my opinion as to what i think of him.

However, I think Pritchard is a stud, and if there was a chance to get him, they should fire Kahn on the spot. Walsh is terrible imo. New York is the "mecca" of the NBA, and they haven't fielded a competitive team in years(this year was different, but anyone can be competitive when you pick up 2 top 20 players.

Picking up 2 top 20 players shouldn't be credited to the GM??

The Knicks were left pretty high and dry by Isaiah Thomas if you remember.

Comprehensive analysis of Kyrie Irving by stop n pop:

http://www.canishoopus.com/2011/4/26...ving#storyjump

and one for Derrick Williams:

http://www.canishoopus.com/2011/4/27...rrick-williams

they had the money, it's new york(basketball mecca etc etc). it's not hard to get above average players to play in a place like new york or LA. Yeah he's better than Isaiah, but Kahn is better than Isaiah too(and he's probably still awful)

I'm not saying he shouldn't be credited for getting those players to sign. But somebody big was going to sign there this last year and him pulling a big name player in New York isn't a good measuring stick for a gm as pulling a big name player to a place like memphis, new orleans, houston, minnesota, milwaukee, etc.

Biyombo!!

What!?!? Under what circumstance would we draft Burks?

Cha when (yeah its happening) we get the #1 overall would you be open to trading Rubio?

yeah, if we get offered enough. If we dont get a good enough return, I say keep them both.

I saw someone at CH say play each of them 24 mins a game & keep Ridnour as a backup & to play one of the three at SG for some stretches under certain circumstances. I think that's a perfectly reasonable plan because Rubio's value in another year or two isnt likely to decrease any from where it will be if we draft Irving. On the off chance that one of the two sucks (highly doubtful for Irving, but its possible), we keep the good one for sure.

snp is high enough on Burks that I think he is his highest rated wing (not including Williams). I dont know much about Burks, but I sure as hell would not trade Irving for Burks & Bismack if that was offered. Burks might be the best SG on our team if we do get him.

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Lol.

I can vouch for the log though, it's good stuff.