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10-30-2010 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
this.

And I don't think so. The annoying part is that they are clearly so ****ing close to breaking through.
I know there's been a ton of shuffling young guys around on the fly to try to figure out where they fit in this D and I know Martin's missed a lot of time but has the D gotten worse overall as the season has gone on? I don't care about stats because I know what those are going to say. I'm saying if John Gruden watched the UConn game and then watched us tonight, what would he think?

I don't know enough to have an informed opinion. There have been SO many changes. I don't even recall seeing Obi tonight. Did he not play?

Last edited by heater; 10-30-2010 at 11:47 PM.
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10-30-2010 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by heater
I know there's been a ton of shuffling young guys around on the fly to try to figure out where they fit in this D and I know Martin's missed a lot of time but has the D gotten worse overall as the season has gone on? I don't care about stats because I know what those are going to say. I'm saying if John Gruden watched the UConn game and then watched us tonight, what would he think about how the relative performance?

I don't know enough to have an informed opinion. There have been SO many changes. I don't even recall seeing Obi tonight. Did he not play?
Pretty sure he sat out the whole game. I didn't remember seeing him on any plays tonight.
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10-30-2010 , 11:48 PM
And if RRod does get fired at the end of the year, there's no way Malzahn is hired. If they're going to determine that the "RichRod experiment" didn't work, then there's no way they go after the new offensive mastermind innovator who has never even been a head coach before.
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10-30-2010 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
thought so too after osu last year and uconn. what went wrong? can it just be blamed on martin and woolfolk?
we looked good against OSU last year because Tressel was super conservative in the first 40 minutes of that game.


and against UCONN, we were lucky to only give up 13. 5 drops in the first half for uconn, a fumble on the 10ish yard line
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10-30-2010 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
And if RRod does get fired at the end of the year, there's no way Malzahn is hired. If they're going to determine that the "RichRod experiment" didn't work, then there's no way they go after the new offensive mastermind innovator who has never even been a head coach before.
paul johnson!

(anyone but harbaugh)
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10-30-2010 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
thought so too after osu last year and uconn. what went wrong? can it just be blamed on martin and woolfolk?
sort of

We have some gaping holes on the depth chart defensively. Only time can fix that problem.

If you would have taken a poll in August of who we could least afford to lose on defense, Martin and Woolfolk would have finished 1-2 by a huge margin. Wouldn't it be nice to have had, say, Obi's ankle explode in camp and Greg Banks missing time right now? And that wasn't just, "Well, those are the guys I would hate to lose the most because they are our two best players." It was more like, "OMG look at the depth chart. Not only are they our two best defenders but if we lose either of those guys their position is ****ed because the guys behind them are terrible." The defense still wouldn't be anywhere near good, but there would definitely be a recognizable difference.

Last edited by heater; 10-31-2010 at 12:03 AM.
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10-30-2010 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
and against UCONN, we were lucky to only give up 13. 5 drops in the first half for uconn, a fumble on the 10ish yard line
true

UConn did not do themselves any favors
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10-31-2010 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
I know there's been a ton of shuffling young guys around on the fly to try to figure out where they fit in this D and I know Martin's missed a lot of time but has the D gotten worse overall as the season has gone on? I don't care about stats because I know what those are going to say. I'm saying if John Gruden watched the UConn game and then watched us tonight, what would he think?

I don't know enough to have an informed opinion. There have been SO many changes. I don't even recall seeing Obi tonight. Did he not play?
The defense, overall, has gotten worse as the year has gone on because we have no depth and like most football teams, we've picked up injuries.

Tonight was a disappointment though, we definitely underperformed. I still have no idea how much of that is on coaching though.
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10-31-2010 , 12:03 AM
the ****ing third down conversions

my god
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10-31-2010 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
true

UConn did not do themselves any favors
This sort of reasoning is so ****ing stupid. I know that I've said this before, but yeah, if you construct a world where every fortunate thing didn't happen to us then we'd be worse off.

Congratulations, you should be a nobel prize winner of football commentary. Believe it or not, good things happen to football teams sometimes.
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10-31-2010 , 12:07 AM
ROFLLLL @ ike saying we are so close to busting through. Chill out on that kool aid homie. Lions are wayyyy closer to being good than Michigan is.
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10-31-2010 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
ROFLLLL @ ike saying we are so close to busting through. Chill out on that kool aid homie. Lions are wayyyy closer to being good than Michigan is.
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10-31-2010 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
This sort of reasoning is so ****ing stupid. I know that I've said this before, but yeah, if you construct a world where every fortunate thing didn't happen to us then we'd be worse off.

Congratulations, you should be a nobel prize winner of football commentary. Believe it or not, good things happen to football teams sometimes.
wtf you're acting like I'm trying to discredit a win or something

I'm talking only in terms of evaluating the play of our defense here. If a wide receiver is left open, he's left open whether he catches the ball or not. That probably means something went wrong defensively. It happened several times in the UConn game.

I'm just thinking out loud about earlier games and trying to figure out if our defense is getting worse. Tonight sucked.
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10-31-2010 , 12:15 AM
RichRod = Obama.

Yeah there are reasonable arguments for the fail, but ultimately they just suck.
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10-31-2010 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
This sort of reasoning is so ****ing stupid. I know that I've said this before, but yeah, if you construct a world where every fortunate thing didn't happen to us then we'd be worse off.

Congratulations, you should be a nobel prize winner of football commentary. Believe it or not, good things happen to football teams sometimes.
Disagree. Nothing wrong with pointing out that the other team made mistakes that helped us. If he said UCONN would have won w/o those mistakes, that is a different story. Tonight, PSU didnt fumble at the goalline or drop open passes and scored 41. We obviously need other teams to screw up to some extent to hold them to a reasonable score.
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10-31-2010 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
Ike with his standard fhgboy gif. Yawn. Suck more RR peen bro.
What do you want greear? Let's say that I actually wrote out something for you... would your response even change? Of course not.

Michigan outgained PSU until the fake FG. They outgained Iowa. The defense has been absolutely ravaged by injuries. These are all things that are far different than last year.

None of this matters of course, because you're the type who thinks that football is a game between two head coaches and two quarterbacks. You're also the type who was clamoring for Tate to play over Robinson not 24 hours from saying Robinson was a Heisman candidate. Nothing you say has more relevancy than anyone calling into 97.1.

So yeah, you'll have to understand why there's maybe a 25% chance that I'll ever take one of your posts seriously.
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10-31-2010 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
wtf you're acting like I'm trying to discredit a win or something

I'm talking only in terms of evaluating the play of our defense here. If a wide receiver is left open, he's left open whether he catches the ball or not. That probably means something went wrong defensively. It happened several times in the UConn game.

I'm just thinking out loud about earlier games and trying to figure out if our defense is getting worse. Tonight sucked.
Nah I'm knocking thehip more than you. Sorry bro.
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10-31-2010 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Nah I'm knocking thehip more than you. Sorry bro.
it's all good

knocking thehip is fine by me
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10-31-2010 , 12:32 AM
I'm hating this Illinois game next week now. It's going to be such a huge recruiting weekend and if things go bad the atmosphere is going to be terrible. I wish they could switch the Purdue/Illinois games on the schedule.
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10-31-2010 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
I'm hating this Illinois game next week now. It's going to be such a huge recruiting weekend and if things go bad the atmosphere is going to be terrible. I wish they could switch the Purdue/Illinois games on the schedule.
sigh definitely. At least it's at home.
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10-31-2010 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JackWhite
Disagree. Nothing wrong with pointing out that the other team made mistakes that helped us. If he said UCONN would have won w/o those mistakes, that is a different story. Tonight, PSU didnt fumble at the goalline or drop open passes and scored 41. We obviously need other teams to screw up to some extent to hold them to a reasonable score.
Oh he has said the bolded. Hipster will probably be back in here tomorrow with some sort of told you so post about 30pts/game in big11ten play even though no one disagreed with him.
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10-31-2010 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
This sort of reasoning is so ****ing stupid. I know that I've said this before, but yeah, if you construct a world where every fortunate thing didn't happen to us then we'd be worse off.

Congratulations, you should be a nobel prize winner of football commentary. Believe it or not, good things happen to football teams sometimes.

but he was saying we looked good against UCONN.

we looked good because they dropped 5 passes in the first half. if they had completed those passes, who knows, maybe they would have been 6-8 on 3rd conversions.

i'm not trying to hash out why we should or shouldn't have won games, just stating that the reason we looked good as a defense against uconn is because you uconn stopped themselves more than MSU/PSU/Iowa did
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10-31-2010 , 01:19 AM
obama=rrod is hilarious.

pray that i wake up tomorrow. lotsavodka.

Last edited by wiper; 10-31-2010 at 01:19 AM. Reason: or dson't sickos
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10-31-2010 , 02:48 AM
Michigan Football: Atleast were not Notre Dame
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10-31-2010 , 05:10 AM
Sadly meatchicken's last win of the season will be against purdue. Rich Rod's seat is about to get very hot
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