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09-14-2008 , 03:30 PM
I don't think MSU is an auto win at all, but at least it's at home. The rest I would expect to win, but am not supremely confident about any, Minny and Northwestern more so than Purdue though. I'd be interested in seeing seeing how PSU does against a good team, but am not expecting to win that or OSU right now at all.

None of that matters if we cough up the ball 23423424 times though.
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09-14-2008 , 03:54 PM
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I agree... I give the Wolverines a much better shot v Wisky and Illinois than most... I think Michigan will be favored verse Illinois
@ Penn St looks rough as does @ Ohio St (but I've seen screwier things in that rivalry like Tim Biakabatuka running for a million yards)

I think, however, that some fans here are underestimating the bottom Big Ten teams

Some are saying Michigan St, @ Purdue, @ Minny, and N'western are automatic wins
I disagree with that
While Michigan will be favored in all of those games, I expect at least 2 to go down to the wire and be a battle of who screws up less.
Right, I listed those as "wins" but that really meant more of games we shold be favored in. At Pdue especially will be tough. State doesn't concern me as much because it's Sparty, plus Hoyer is greatly overrated. OTOH, this isn't really meaningful but first coaches don't win that game. Saban was I believe the only 1st year Spartan coach to win his first Michigan game, and that year Carr was also a first-year coach. I believe Oosterbaan was the last M coach to win his first time out.
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09-17-2008 , 08:00 PM
Alright, this thread has kind of slowed down lately since a lot of the discussion has been in the ND and weekly CFB threads, but I'll just post some of my thoughts and updates about this year so far.

1. Anthony LaLota committed to Michigan. He is either a high 4* DE or a 5* OT, but he wants to play DE and that's where Michigan recruited him. DE is a huge need for us, so this is good. He has some chance to move up in the rankings, as he has not been playing football that long and more than likely has a lot of work he can do, but who really cares. He's also the epitome of a New Jersey Guido, but I'll take what I can when it comes to DEs.

2. Threet is the solid starter now. Rod said Sheridan was still in his mind a "little bit" but that's hardly convincing. Basically, thank God for this. Sheridan was pretty bad, and ND fans might recognize him as the "walk-on who threw two INTs in like 4 minutes" in that game. Threet looked pretty good, especially for a freshman, in the ND game. He threw for almost 3x as many yards as the previous game he started, so science says he'll be throwing for about 10,000 ypg by the end of the year. Or something.

3. It's been pretty cool to watch the offense visibly improve how it has, minus the OMGFUMBLES. Hopefully it wasn't a fluke, but Threet did look light years ahead in throwing competency from where he was during the Miami game. His decisions were always pretty fine, but he's making some plays now. McGuffie was also sick. Carlos Brown made some minor rumblings about his playing time, but I don't think anyone really cares when other RBs are producing.

4. Here's how I think we stack up for the rest of the year against the remaining teams we face:

Wisky: I think they're overrated, but that we'll probably still lose. ND pounded ahead for some decent yards when they did go with that. Our linebackers have had trouble recognizing plays fast enough to stop these kinds of runs for less than 4-5 yards, and that happens to be PJ Hill's specialty, so...yeah. That said, if the D-line gets it together and the offense keeps improving, we have a shot. I think we'll lose, but if a bunch of "ifs" come together, we could make it a game. It's a home game FWIW.

Illinois: I haven't been able to watch anything they've done, but by all reports, they've been inconsistent. I think this will be more competitive than I thought at the beginning of the year. I'm going to tentatively predict a win just to generate some discussion (not sold on this at all), maybe MT2R can fill us in with some more detail about this team. Juice still looks a bit shaky through the air and, just looking by stats (admittedly not the best way to do it), looks like he hasn't put together a complete game both running and passing, but he has had games where he passed well (Missouri) and ran well (E. Illinios). How much his numbers were brought down by sacks (6 times) I don't know. This is a home game.

Toledo: Christ, there better not be much to say about this game by the time it comes around. Win. Please.

Penn State: They've looked real good so far, but they've played **** and ****tier teams. This game is at PSU and we'll probably lose unless they look completely, utterly different against decent teams.

Michigan State: Ringer is going to give us problems, but Hoyer blows, and Ringer's YPC outside of the FAU game isn't anything spectacular. Against Cal it was downright bad. He's also averaging 34 carries per game, so if he doesn't get drastically reduced carries or completely worn out by this point, I'll be surprised. Barring a regression (highly possible), I think we win this (it's at home). Making Hoyer beat us would be smart as our corners don't suck, and he isn't good enough to consistently make us pay in the parts of our secondary where we do suck.

Purdue: Not an auto-win by any means, but I somewhat expect to win this barring, again, a regression back to how we were at the start of the year. Expect Roy Roundtree to go for 14 receptions for 298 yards with 4 TDs this game.

Minny, NW: I don't know dick about either of these teams. Just win please.

OSU: Yeah, expecting to lose here. Expecting Pryor to make us all cry and wish he would have come here. Unless UM keeps improving exponentially and OSU keeps getting worse and worse and worse and worse and worse, we really don't have a shot.



So yeah, this is somewhat optimistic based just on how the offense looked against ND blah blah sample size, I know. I know this year could still go horribly wrong.

So basically...

Best Case: We win all the games I homerishly predicted we'll win (Illinois, Toledo, MSU, Purdue, Minny, and NW) along with stealing one from either PSU or Wisky, leaving us at 8-4 (6-2). This is way optimistic yo.

Worst Case: Lose to Wisky, Illinios, PSU, MSU, OSU, Purdue, and one of Minny/NW, leaving us at 3-9 (1-7). Hey, dat's ND from last year.

Realistically I really think we'll hit 6-6 or 7-5 if we keep improving, so not a whole lot has changed since the beginning of the year. If we regress at all, well, GG season.
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09-19-2008 , 03:35 PM
Also, Craig Roh committed yesterday. He's a 4-star Rivals 250 DE, so between him and LaLota, that position of need came together nicely.
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09-19-2008 , 07:18 PM
Very solid recruiting class. Get Campbell back (likely), get a couple of OL and DB's. Otherwise we've addressed the DE and QB needs and added some key players at other spots too.

Since we have no game, who you all rooting for in the ND-MSU game? You cannot pick the meteor/typhoon/nuclear bomb option.

MSU for me. Yeah, the "Spartans are finally going to overtake Michigan" articles will be annoying, but they write those all the time without justification anyway. BFD. Yeah, Dantonio looks like a solid-ish coach for MSU, and giving them momentum isn't the best thing. But State is never going to be a problem for Michigan except at the margins. If State overtakes UM, it's because U-M collapsed for reasons not related to Sparty. The worst Sparty can do is be continually competent and make it harder to get some in-state guys, which sucks but is manageable.

ND winning/losing doesn't really matter much either, they'll get a bit more positive press ("Return to Glory!!!"), but whatever, I'm confident they can squander it. Anyway, my position is mostly based on hating ND and only disliking State.
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09-19-2008 , 07:24 PM
def MSU and i dont think its really close
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09-19-2008 , 07:32 PM
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def MSU and i dont think its really close
+1
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09-20-2008 , 03:45 AM
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def MSU and i dont think its really close
+1

I actually grew up a Spartan fan (both my parents went there). When MSU came into town for the game, we'd get wasted hit on their hot girls and generally have good time together.

When Notre Dame came over, they were a bunch of pricks at the bar who brought no girls without a mustache. **** ND imo.
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09-20-2008 , 08:18 AM
MSU
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09-20-2008 , 01:00 PM
hopefully it's michigan state 52-7, with the lone ND touchdown being the guy from last week who picked up the fumble and pointed into the stands as he scored picking up a fumble, pointing into the stands as he scores, and then blowing his knee out.
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09-20-2008 , 03:00 PM
Rooting for Jimmy Clausen to get tackled by his hair. MSU by a lot hopefully.
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09-20-2008 , 03:02 PM
I'm actually pretty surprised at how passionate I am feeling about rooting for MSU.
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09-20-2008 , 03:17 PM
Let me taste your tears, Michigan fans.

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09-20-2008 , 03:30 PM
Pryor is going to be a beast. We kind of knew that, but still. Luckily Tressel is from the Lloyd Carr school of coaching, so I'm confident that he may not fully realize his potential (although he's not going to be stupid with him either). Gonna be an interesting stretch of the rivalry.

By default, PSU looks like the class of the Big Ten, although I wouldn't count out Wisconsin either.
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09-20-2008 , 03:32 PM
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Let me taste your tears, Michigan fans.

Glad we could be a part of your Return to Glory.
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09-20-2008 , 03:57 PM
RE: Pryor- so frustrating that he didn't come to Michigan. Pryor + RRod is dreamy. Now I have to manipulate myself into disliking him.
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09-20-2008 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
Let me taste your tears, Michigan fans.

10-0
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09-20-2008 , 05:19 PM
See, it's not that ND is great, because clearly they aren't, it's just sad to see Michigan fans having to resort to getting their thrills through Sparty.
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09-20-2008 , 05:45 PM
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See, it's not that ND is great, because clearly they aren't, it's just sad to see Michigan fans having to resort to getting their thrills through Sparty.
I can't speak for everyone, but I've always rooted for MSU in this game. I don't know what's surprising or different about that to you this year.
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09-20-2008 , 05:50 PM
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I can't speak for everyone, but I've always rooted for MSU in this game. I don't know what's surprising or different about that to you this year.
+1
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09-27-2008 , 07:16 PM
Bumpety bump bump bumppppppp

Here's what I said earlier about this game

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Wisky: I think they're overrated, but that we'll probably still lose. ND pounded ahead for some decent yards when they did go with that. Our linebackers have had trouble recognizing plays fast enough to stop these kinds of runs for less than 4-5 yards, and that happens to be PJ Hill's specialty, so...yeah. That said, if the D-line gets it together and the offense keeps improving, we have a shot. I think we'll lose, but if a bunch of "ifs" come together, we could make it a game. It's a home game FWIW.
Like every "if" imaginable came together in the second half. Sooooooooo happy
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09-27-2008 , 07:16 PM
IMHO our coaches made the proper adjustments at halftime.

/sarcasm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** YES

GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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09-27-2008 , 07:19 PM
crazy **** right there. this season has been pretty damn fun!
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09-27-2008 , 07:21 PM
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This season's going to be a rollercoaster ride.

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09-27-2008 , 07:22 PM
Also I know there were some recruits in town for this game. What a great time to show them.

Edit: Apparently Will Campbell was there. Excellenttttttttt
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