Phil Fulmer is available.

Never gets old.

Having said that with Les Miles and Mack Brown coming back, who's to say how long Fulmer will be unemployed?

Also available:

I hear what you guys are saying and I mostly agree, but for the love of god someone teach Jimmy how to use timeouts and manage the clock. Drives me insane.

Or in a go for it on fourth down spot in the first half

Calls timeout

Tries hard snap to draw them offsides

False start

Punt


From the OSU 40/42



Someone brought up Dabo. Doubt he’s doing this sequence


We got us a Michigan chilly

He just needs to go to the Saban Surprise Onside Kick school.

Jim's tactics are right for Michigan in 90% of games. The 10% where we don't have a massive advantage he needs to be more aggressive both with play calling and situational game calling.

Would the takes ITT be the same if the hire four years ago was someone like PJ Fleck and the record for those four years was the same?

Probably not as hot. I think someone with a less proven record would be seen as going through more of a project of program rebuilding, even though it's honestly the same process Harbaugh is going through right now.

Harbaugh's prior record and immediate success in the NFL with the 49ers ramped up expectations higher than they'd be for any other coach.

Charlie Weis should probably eat less. Has any coach in football history been paid more to coach less?

Houston Nutt would be a phenomenal retread coaching hire for the upcoming silly season.

You guys are fine with Harbaugh. Us Domers were calling for Kelly to be fired two years ago. I probably gave him a 5% chance of turning things around. The one thing holding me back was, “then who?” BK is a meathead who makes dumb decisions from time to time and has perennially awful special teams, but compared to a non-Meyer, non-Saban alternative, who? In the end, 10 win seasons aren’t that bad when you can luckbox a playoff spot every 5-6 years. I expect you guys are in a really similar spot with JH.

There aren't many advocating firing JH so this is really an argument with no counter-side but one other way you can know keeping Harbaugh is the correct move is also using market knowledge. If you let him go, he'd be snapped by 5-10 NFL franchises and 80% of CFB that could afford him. Take counter examples. Obviously no one wants to hire Hoke for anything but defensive staff positions, maybe he'd get back to being a MAC-level HC. But no one was ever going to hire him for a Michigan level job. That's an indicator Hoke was a jabroni. And this ain't a Rich Rodriguez situation where you got a hot coaching option and he got exposed, and so his next job was a downgrade, because he didn't look like a top tier option anymore. I thought more of RR than Hoke but it's clear he got Peter Principled a bit; he could thrive in the Big East or stake out a living being mediocre in the Pac12 but wasn't elite.

I am not some NFL/football insider but I bet the common perception among experts is actually the opposite, that Harbaugh is bringing Michigan up and we're dragging him down, to so speak, and the relative lack of success is institutional/circumstantial (e.g., Michigan isn't the program its fans think it is, it's hard to be a consistent top 5-10 team here). And if we let him go he'd instantly get a USC level job, or wind up back at Stanford, or he'd get hired by the half dozen NFL teams that will have openings next month, and we'd be the ones looking hapless for it.

You can't always trust that heuristic but "what job could your coach get instead, and who could you get in his place?" really does not line up favorably for Michigan at all.

1. We didn’t hire pj fleck. We hired the savior


2. Pj fleck wouldn’t have the same expectations as harbaugh

3. He wouldn’t be making 8 millions


If rich rod came in and had multiple 9-10 win seasons he would prob still be here


But that’s not why harbaugh was hired.

We would have paid PJ Fleck 6-7 Million for the same reasons we paid Brady Hoke $3.5 Million a year when he would have taken the job for $300k a year plus a ham sandwich on his desk every day

Speaking of Fleck, I’m enjoying the Big Ten West circular firing squad of “...are we sure they’re good?” coaches beating up on each other at random. Fleck, Brohm, Frost, Ferentz, Fitzgerald...

This has been gnawing at me but I’ve lacked the ability to put it into words, let alone as well as this.

Highnoon is 100% g10. Sorry bout the 15k :sad:

Yeah, it really is stupid.

OSU played TCU OOC who is bad now and if they just lost to Purdue and not get blown out they would be right there for the playoffs in a year where there are 3 undefeated teams.

IIRC, the problem on that play was it took forever to get the play in and at that point there was like 10-15 seconds to line up.

That is the problem I’m talking about

He had to “think” about going for it


Therein lies the issue

I'm over it. Yeah, I'm probably in the minority, but I'm completely fine with a season when we're 10-1 and a favorite going into the OSU game even if one of the outcomes is that we get pasted in Columbus. It didn't work out. For the rest of the season it was fun to have something to look forward to on Saturdays. Maybe next year, eh?

+1

Im pissed I have to spend Saturday outside in the rain looking at Christmas lights instead of being in Indy. Will never forgive them for that

You're still a pussy imo. A smart one tho.

Honestly I was over it about two hours after the game ended. Sometimes you just get got, you know? OSU had a perfect gameplan and like a 99th percentile overall performance. In retrospect we were ****ed from the moment it kicked. I was much more upset by 2016 and 2017 where we had a legit chance and let them off the hook through our own mistakes. Still a fun season.

I think this doesn’t get to blow out status if Gentry makes that TD grab in the first half. It just spiraled out of control

Similar to the UM-PSU game. If mcsorley hits a wide open WR right near half time the game is 14-7 at half and it’s a different game


Sure we prob gonna lose always. Not sure if the team gets to the point where it quits though.

Go eat at Lotus of Siam for me

In Vegas? That place owns. The crispy duck curry with the noodles ftw.

Even back when I ate meat, Chinese places bored the **** out of me. All their meals seem like they're made out of 90% sodium. I realize right now I am being blatantly ignorant and racist by lumping a Thai restaurant in the category of all Chinese places, but they really are all the same, and sometimes I just wanna speak freely and show my true American colors.