lol... 11-5 then? still a playoff team? ... don't dance around it, own it.

I thought the team could go 10-6 based on a good early start, and as I stated, key catalysts would be improvement of Tannehill, and dominance of Suh which has not been the case. I also expressed serious skepticism of the defense in general, but thought that Suh would have the power to make ordinary players look good, which also has not happened. I also expressed in the offseason, in this thread, that I thought they'd finish 8-8 (April) and serious skepticism about the defense (last January):

I expected this to be a more physical team than it is. With Albert LT, Pouncey C, and James RT, there is a skeleton of a respectable offensive line there. But as per usual, they have been hampered by injuries, inconsistency and Tannehlll standing in the pocket like a statue waiting to get nailed.

Have I been wrong? Yep. As anyone who chats about sports and makes casual predictions for the fun of it will be. I have also been right.

On the other hand, it's definitely clear you cannot admit when you're wrong and that you are a complete ******* for taking predictions I made partly for conversation sake in this pretty sparse thread and using them against me as some sort of bargaining chip to prove that your thoughts are superior to mine. Yet you A) didn't raise any concerns with the predictions until you had the results and B) never made any predictions yourself, and C) never admit when you are wrong, D) disappear when you are wrong

Yup. It was luck. It's all luck. Keep telling yourself that like a fish.

LOL... just stopped in to say hi... I see you're still blabbering on about your favorite player (who still doesn't know how to cover the deep half of the field)... anyhow, TL;DR

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201512...1968&tab=track

It was luck.

what's with the Pro Bowl snub?

I know: "That's not what the FANS think!!!" ... Lemme check the voting over on NFL.com ... Oops, nope, only 9% saw Jones as the biggest snub, good enough for last among four players listed on their home page. Allen Robinson was first at 43%.

curious, Fantaz... do you also see Tannehill as a championship-capable quarterback?

I refuse to answer until they get a competent line

He's not there but obviously he could get there. In any given season there are always 3-4 QBs who have a bad season and bounce back the following year. So many factors contributed to Ryan's struggles. Starting with the o line. The lack of a running game (through little fault of Lamar's). The awful play calling and offensive system. The terrible season Cameron had. There are numerous things besides Tannehill just not being sharp.

It's not like the Dolphins are a QB away. They had so many damn problems on both sides of the ball this season

P.S. re shad was one of the few non problems this year

I'd say he's about Brad Johnson level. He's good enough to win one if the team is very solid everywhere else.

He's not as bad a Trent Dilfer where he would need a historically elite D behind him. Just a very good one.

The Tampa defense with brad Johnson was better than the Ravens defense
1A
1B

Tannenhill has potential to be way more than brad Johnson
Things could go perfectly for him and he could make a handful of pro bowls

Not likely but possible

How has Suh been?

I have no idea what this means. While extremely good, I don't think anyone thinks that TB Def was as good as the Ravens defense.

I don't disagree that your scenario is possible. Based on what I've seen, I think it is unlikely. There is also the possibility that he is never any better than he is now (which imo, is not quite peak B. Johnson, but I realize many would disagree w/ that assessment). Stable coaching would be very helpful for his development. It hasn't exactly been stable so far, and it's not clear that it will be anytime soon.

Good, but not good enough to justify the price.

Agreed but mainly because of inconsistency. He had a couple awful games. But often times his impact doesn't show up on the standard stat sheet.

The only way he is winning a championship right now is on a team that is ****ed stacked everywhere else which would be virtually impossible. I dont believe that hes someone who makes the people around him better, and I think QBs has to do that. Pretty down on him at this point. His pocket presence has been totally atrocious IMO. He is terrible at avoiding rushers. I would bet about 50% of the sacks this year were a result of Tannehill standing in 1 spot in the pocket and staring down field until inevitably a defender breaks loose and nails him. This is a big contrast to many franchise QBs in the NFL. If you really watch them in the pocket, they have constant movement. Theyre always dodging, moving, sliding, and they are able to stay focused on whats happening downfield while doing so. Aaron Rodgers is particularly good at this, so is Romo. Tannehill on the other hand, drops back, stands in 1 spot and waits to get nailed. The never ending safety train we gave up is directly related to this.

Lololol, I could give a **** what fans think or what a poll says. Jones clearly had one of the best years and clearly deserved to go to the pro bowl. The only reason he didnt is because this team is irrelevant and quite frankly nobody knows or cares what is going on with them. People that pay close attention to the NFL know about Reshad Jones because its their job. Fans in a poll? They watch their favorite team every week and have basically no clue what is going on with the other 31 teams, lel. Nice citation tho.

Fwiw, at this point I advocate tanking for higher draft pick and draft the best QB in the draft, and then probably spend the rest of the picks fortifying the OL and DL.

I don't see anyway we use a 1st rounder on a QB. We have massive needs all over the defense that should be addressed first. Our biggest need is CB imo. We can't cover anybody.

Our drafting history has been terrible though, so I'm not holding my breath that we're gonna somehow fill a bunch of needs in this draft.

I don't see us doing the right thing either because we are stupid. Draft another CB while the next drew brees slips by us again

So apparently Adam Gase is gonna be our new coach. We're not even going to bother interviewing Hue Jackson or Mike Shula or any of the coordinators who actually took a team to the playoffs. We're just gonna hire this kid tomorrow and hope for the best. Ross is such a tard.

Wow

Can't say I'm excited. Another offensive coach. He looks like a dweeb so I doubt he's a motivator or a leader of alpha males

They already have Campbell as the alpha hoo rah guy

They need a guy with a brain

Is Campbell staying? Are they just going to move him back to TE coach?