Nathan got some boos, but that run wasn't on him. Hard to be too hard on them, because the two guys you'd expect to cover 3rd in that situation were involved in the play, so on a shifted infield it was on Kinsler to sprint over to 3rd ahead of Cano. The run was off a BS bloop single on a good pitch.

Game delivered.

Lol Craig Monroe just said Castellanos should be rookie of the year even though Abreau is having a good season too.


Hahahahhahahahahahahahaaaaaaa

Poor guy. He also said the Tigers knew they had to "make" Felix get up in the strike zone, then they proceeded to show a bunch of hits and 4/5 of them were down in the zone that Tiger hitters went down and got.

Craig Monroe, better announcer than player

**** Detroit fans. Had multiple people bitch at me for booing Nathan tonight. Go **** yourself

Here we go, the Jim Johnson era starts today. This could get ugly.

Miggy is ****ing dreadful at hitting

It's painfully obvious we are going to do nothing off Chris Young all day.

Sometimes you gotta just tip your cap, the guy knows what he's talking about

And Robbie Ray is confirming today he will never be anything more than a long relief option. He is bad and should feel bad.

We should've hired Lloyd.

Incredible how awful we are at hitting and relief pitching.

Just as I said we would, I could tell after the first ****ing inning that Chris Young and his 85mph heater would be too much for us. And it was.

Why did we sign Jim Johnson, seriously? Why...

Every team we play has guys coming out of the pen with K/BB rates of 4:1 and **** just endless amounts of them, all throwing upper 90s

We have Phil coke, Blaine hardy, Jim Johnson, Joe Nathan, Ian Kroll...

I mean just ****ing vomit

Bruce Rondon....

Hurts a lot

FIRE AUSMUS

Agree... What a huge piece of **** Ausmus is.

Can you imagine Leyland letting Joe Nathan run his mouth like this? Did you see the most recent thing he said?

He said that the fans don't realize how good guys like himself and Phil Coke have been in the past.


Hahahahahahhahaahahahaaaaaa

Leyland would kick his ass in the dugout then saunter over to Greektown to play penny slots.

What's the bare minimum amount of wins to where you say we'd comfortably be in the playoffs? 90? That would take what... 24-16? Can't see us playing better than 22-18 the rest of the way.

LÖL

Were you saying that about Porcello a few years ago too? Gotta give these young starters time to develop command, Ray is still a real solid prospect who never should have been in The Show this season.

800 ABs going to negative WAR players.

Ray isn't in the same universe as a prospect when compared to Porcello.

We turned down Porcello + for Halladay in his near peak

I like this interpretation - but I was actually trolling because you & some other dude took a 1 off joke I made about utility players seriously.

My diagnosis: too much oot

I never claimed that Pena was a good hitter. I said that he deserved a shot to come back for another year after hitting .300 for us. You don't **** on people who deliver for you!

Johnson was very good last night and if he continues like that, he might be our best late inning option. 94-95 painting the exact bottom of the strikezone is awesome. The results are just variance. Sometimes you make a great pitch and they still hit it out. Add to this that Avila called yet for another throw over to 1st before calling for an offspeed pitch, so everyone in the ballpark knew what was coming.

Unfortunately this team won't even make it to the playoffs, so we don't have to speculate who will take over the closer-job after Nathan's ERA baloons up to 7+.

Velocity is always a good indicator for health. Robbie Ray hit 94-96 at his debut and now he is around 91-93. Maybe he tried too hard at AAA and got himself injured. I wouldn't give up on him yet, but right now he is obviously uneffective. Take a fresh look at him next spring.

Krol had a huge drop in velo also, probably the most significant of them all. Although he seems to be recovering slightly during his last two outings, I think that there is definitely something wrong with him physically.

Last but not least, Verlander hit 95 once during his last outing and 94 a couple of times. That's within his usual range for the first inning. Chances are he just sucks and they had to pull the plug on him and were forced to make up some kind of story to explain it. I can't see much difference to his other outings, even though he claims that he had the worst stuff on his career. Maybe he meant the whole season.

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.as...ion=P&pitch=FA

Damn, the rax has spoken, we aren't playoffing

RAX is usually right is the thing.

tigazz have the most aids of any >.500 baseball team in the AL