I just got home and wouldn't have been surprised if they were leading. 17-13. This says something about this team. Not saying they will win.

Defense wins retirement nights

packer fans feeling like we did last year, wanting to riot

cutler outplayed rodgers

their WR's are worse than when our WR 1 was devin hester

actual playoff equity possibly knocking GB out

feels good man, feels good.

fox should've gone for it on 4th and 1 though or not played prevent early on like there was 30 sec left instead of 3 minutes.

Since the Pack trounced the Bears on Butkus/Sayers night it only seems fair and equitable that we beat them on Favre night.

So many late/painful losses this year last night looked like it might be another one. A few woulda coulda shouldas in there and this is a playoff team. Not a good one but the talent gap is pretty tight this year outside of the top few elite teams.

Congrats to Bears fans. Cutler played great. Bears definitely continued to expose the Packers weak pass receiving group. Remember too that Kevin White could be a big difference maker in the future.

Whats up with this play calling? Run up the middle every play. Scared to throw

this staff is super conservative late in games, should've cost us the GB game last week, did cost us the 49ers game.

Naturally the narrative will be to blame Gould instead.

or instead of say how the hell do you give up a 44 yd td run and a 71 yd td pass from BLAINE GABBERT.

Well, would you expect Gabbert to beat you deep?

its been the theme all year. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

Would this be inaccurate?

Its a game of lol kickers

Should've gone for some slot crosses on 3rd and 4th, there was no need for deep passes with that much time left, still need Gould to hit that obviously but the playcalling before that was atrocious

Haven't posted, or read, here in a while. Was thinking of posting optimism (and I had a fair bit before season start) around the time of the Chiefs and Raiders games, but didn't want to jinx it.

Since then, man. Some sick Fox ball. I've gone from thinking we might hit the playoffs (after the Packers game) to watching us sh** the bed at home against two teams that hadn't won on the road. What the f***'s up with that?

Honestly, I think I can see the pattern now. It's happened before, in Carolina and Denver. Fox will improve us a lot but he'll ultimately outfox himself too many times with conservatism, and it'll likely f*** us.

Fox just goes straight ******. Anyone else catch that lack of timeout at the end of the first half? Seriously, we sack them on 3rd down at the 10, one play after the two minute warning, and have 3 timeouts left. But nah, let let's them run the clock down?!
Only got saved by the Redskins being too dumb to punt at 2 secs, and then Jay entering "**** it, I don't need time anyway" mode.

Also, anyone else pig sick of us running up the gut for a yard or two like EVERY first down the last two month?

This team, man...

Thankful that we are running out of quality players to dump for nothing.

Let's get this thread goin', lads. This is a pretty big test for Pace. It's been a decent enough summer to get excited about catching another peek at the vision.

Vernon Hargreaves the THIRD for me.

Yeah no kidding.

Don't know much about the kid but trading up to 9 to take an OLB with 4.5 sacks on the season. Something seems wrong about that.

^agree

I feel like I jinxed us.

What the **** was that pick (and trade) all about? Do not like.

First the Hawks lose to the Blues and now this...

Optimism mode: Forget Pace. If you can't trust Fox and Fangio's input on LB's then whose can you?

Apparently the Giants were all over him at 11. If they're so sure they can turn him in to a serious pass rusher (and that seems to be their wisdom), and there was no-one else they wanted there, then it was probably a better choice than getting gazumped by one slot for the third year in a row.

M***********s better be right though...

I'll trust Fox and Fangio on it, but i am by no means excited about the pick.

Seems like a high ceiling low floor guy. I probably woulda preferred the smoking LT.

I think Floyd was a pretty bad pick (he's not a pass rusher and you just can't take those guys top 10, lawson is better), Whitehair fine dunno where we're putting him guess LT to start out (everyone says he's a NFL guard but we are definitely set there atm), Bullard definitely good grading our picks so far. Shame we skipped Tunsil--would've been very arguably a top 5 draft overall so far if we had taken him.

Unfortunately for us, Minnesota is crushing this draft so far with treadwell/alexander/getting 2 miami comp picks next year. GB/DET okay so far. At least we didn't trade multiple picks for a ****ing kicker or draft a QB I hate (yet), pace is turning it around.

I'm actually really stoked with our draft, the more I look into it.

1st: My concerns with Floyd's low sack numbers seem misplaced. It looks like he was asked to play all over the defense, play a lot of coverage. Explains his low sack numbers. Definitely see them looking at him as a potential Von Miller type. He has great athleticism and length.

2nd: Was puzzled at Whitehair, but it seems we've been all about Best Player Available from then on. I'd say he starts at LG Day 1, with Slausen sliding to Center or leaving the team. Think they're looking at this guy to be a future Pro Bowler inside, to team with Kyle.

3rd: Thought we had bigger needs, but this dude looks like a straight beast. Relentless. Sick penetration against the run. Projects to lock in as DE.

PFF has these last two as A grade picks. BPA all day. Really think that's the way to build a team for the future.

The RB looks a strong inside-running complement to Langford (highest yards after contact per PFF). Our middle plus this guy = Fox running up the gut all day on you.

Safeties look like late good value hoping one sticks. Good strategy.

The last pick might be the next Wes Welker. Awesome value who might lock down the starting slot position within in a season.

Really, really happy with the draft. As are PFF, and a lot of "experts". Don't know the last time I really felt that. Might be crazy optimism, but this could be a better draft than last years solid one, and a draft that sets us up for years to come.

sigh, my comp for Leonard Floyd

is Dion Jordan. (dion better 3 cone/floyd better vertical/everything else including height/weight really close).

Dion was horribly misused in Miami and that's my fear in CHI.

Floyd's 3 cone/shuttle suggests he'll struggle with pass rushing, he doesn't have that bend (von miller was one of the biggest freakazoids ever so that's a bad comp), hopefully he can be functional at it.

He should be our best coverage LB however. Just wasn't worth 9th overall is all. (also afraid of a super athletic TE cutting on him as he won't keep up with that for a few steps)

later guys are whatever since on avg half don't make week 1 anyway.

Slau gone - released. Whitehair's gonna be starting...

Also Rolle too. Damn we getting young.