Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks?

07-19-2010 , 09:02 PM
I'm just saying I really love this Escobar guy, thanks
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-19-2010 , 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigt2k4
I'm just saying I really love this Escobar guy, thanks
lolsamplesizeaments.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-19-2010 , 09:31 PM
Yunel's OPS has risen from .618 to .665 in 4 games since being traded. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-19-2010 , 09:33 PM
His HRs have been off Brian Matusz and Kyle Davies. That is the only thing I am hanging onto as far as immediately regretting this trade.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-19-2010 , 10:14 PM
Thank you ST. Louis now lets go dbacks!
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-19-2010 , 10:21 PM
4 in the first for AZ, keep it up
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-19-2010 , 10:24 PM
lol @ the competition
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-19-2010 , 10:47 PM
Yunel just took a HBP to move the runner over to 2nd in extra innings. WIM is off the charts. Kid has heart.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 01:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
His HRs have been off Brian Matusz and Kyle Davies. That is the only thing I am hanging onto as far as immediately regretting this trade.
It's not like omg we traded him right before he started mashing...he's mashing because we traded him
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 02:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hard2tel
It's not like omg we traded him right before he started smashing...he's smashing because we traded him
So there is no way you will think this is a bad trade for us? If he goes back to exactly the way he was then everyone is really going to give Wren a pass? Despite accusations of laziness from day one, he has been awesome for the Braves his entire career except for half a season which could partially be explained by his rustiness from the injury. Hard to believe he would just stop trying right when he is about to become arbitration eligible and every hit means $. I believe he is a douchebag, but that is not a good reason to trade him, imo.

Me, I'm going to be completely results-orientated on this one. I hated the trade at first, but then I even ended up defending it against ShiponTilt because of the trust we all placed in the Braves FO knowing when to cut guys loose. I mean causing me to lose an argument to ShiponTilt, that is just an unforgivable, unredeemable, absolutely horrible sin. I will never trust Wren again if that happens, and I will assume that all the trust I placed in the Braves FO belonged solely to Schuerholtz but he is out playing golf these days.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 02:36 AM
Nah it's definitely a bad trade for us talent wise and wins wise. But only like .5 win the rest of this season and 1 win next season terrible..not a huge difference.

I still refuse to believe that Yunel would of had a big second half if he stayed a Brave though.

Also don't forget that Schuerholtz is the one who did the Texiera trade..so he wasn't infallible either.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 03:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hard2tel
Nah it's definitely a bad trade for us talent wise and wins wise. But only like .5 win the rest of this season and 1 win next season terrible..not a huge difference.

I still refuse to believe that Yunel would of had a big second half if he stayed a Brave though.

Also don't forget that Schuerholtz is the one who did the Texiera trade..so he wasn't infallible either.
Costing any wins doesn't seem acceptable, and .5/1 win is worse than it sounds. Do you think it will be regained from other players being happier and playing better? It is a really fuzzy area, can't be proved one way or the other, but obv its possible.

I dunno, Yunel was improving even before the trade. I can't comprehend someone not trying to hit. Baserunning, yeah. Fielding, yeah, though he was still really good at it. The place it makes sense to me to accuse a batter of being lazy is in their approach, and Yunel was as patient as ever this season. I guess he could also be lazy in batting practice? That is pretty weak though. Maybe he took a "shot"? That is pretty much the only explanation I could buy that doesn't involve his injury and/or regression to the mean.

Schuerholz has an amazing 17 year track record, one knowingly risky trade and Dye for Tucker are nothing. Wren has already made as many questionable decisions, though obviously he is not working with the same payroll Schuerholz was and Schuerholz might be/probably is taking part in his decisions.

Last edited by Pwn_Master; 07-20-2010 at 03:58 AM.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 05:20 AM
He really wasn't improving though. He had that good run late May to mid-June but since then was 14-71 with 2 doubles and 12 singles.

But it all depends on how the 2 prospects turn out I think. Maybe they'll be able to make up those wins down the road.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 08:27 AM
I like the prospects we picked up. Yunel was obv a prob in the clubhouse. So I like the trade. I dont think Alex is going to so much produce a ton more than Yunel but the fact of just getting him out of the clubhouse for the chemistry aspect is important enough imo.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 08:28 AM
Gain a 1/2 game on phils and mets wo playing. WTG Bravos!
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 10:26 AM
Tough game tonight that could very easily go either way. In fact, our three best starters all face pretty tough matchups against the Padres, who have just ridiculously good pitching this year--fewest runs allowed in MLB by a ton. The NL West is scary this year, and I'm just happy all 11 games we have left against them are at home.

In other news, Phils have a brutal matchup in STL. The Mets have a pretty easy one against AZ--not that this means much after last night lol
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 05:20 PM
ya, def a tough series, would be nice for JJ to get us off to a good start.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 05:36 PM
LOL, this Phillies guy is more delusional than ShiponTilt:

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-bl...k_bradley_blog
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 06:01 PM
Jfc facing Hudson and Hanson, bad matchups for the Padres, I think tonight might be the only real chance at winning a game this series. Padres have actually been hitting better but that has been v Colorado/Washington/Arizona
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 06:24 PM
Little nervous about this series with SD. Hope we can take it and continue to march.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 06:56 PM
I think it's safe to say the fans of both clubs would be perfectly happy splitting the series and going on our merry way through the rest of the season.


Looking over our competition, the Phils have kind of a brutal schedule against the NL West:

vs Colorado (4gm)
vs AZ
vs LAD
vs SF
@ SD
@ LAD
vs Colorado (1 gm makeup)


We, OTOH, have

vs SD
vs SF (4gms)
vs LAD (4gms)
@ COL


The Mets have the rest of this AZ series, and

@ LAD (4gms)
vs AZ
vs COL

Mets have it easiest but they just got done losing 3/4 @ SF, as well as the first game @AZ. Phils schedule just sucks.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 06:58 PM
I dont know, I dont really feel bad at all about this series. JJ, is pitching well, McCann is heating up and hits lefties well, as is Diaz. I also feel like we can afford to lose a tough series with the way the Mets and Phils are going. The only thing I would be worried about is the Padres gaining confidence from winning the series if we meet in the postseason, but even that worry is minuscule.
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 08:06 PM
dayum
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 08:22 PM
Matty D heatin up!
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote
07-20-2010 , 08:22 PM
Diaz is the man!
Atlanta Braves: Win More Games Than The Hawks? Quote

      
m