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09-16-2013 , 09:47 AM
Kicking this off early with a Thursday night question

Vick vs KC
Luck vs SF

I didn't watch any of either KC game, and considering Romo's line yesterday, I just assume they had a lot of scoring chances and blew them. But was that more KC's D or Romo being Romo? Are we buying that SF is actually a little weaker? Especially if Reid is concussed, which looked pretty bad last night.
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09-16-2013 , 12:34 PM
KC's D is legit imo. They have a lot of good players. I am not buying the demise of the 9ers D though.
Super close. Throw a dart.
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09-16-2013 , 12:43 PM
+1, flip a coin

Standard scoring non ppr pick 1
sjax @ mia
demarco vs stl
bradshaw @ sf

Same as above
bowe @ phi
cecil @ sea
gordon @ min
torey vs hou

No clue with the RB situation but leaning Bowe as my WR2 right now.
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09-16-2013 , 02:11 PM
Bowe is a no brainer vs Eagles secondary.
I think Demarco is the easy pick as the least bad of a bunch of bad matchups (sjax might be out too)



QBs
Romo vs STL
Pryor @ Den
or pickup Rivers who is a FA @ Ten? I think Romo has got to be my guy, sat him this week though.
Cutler @ Pit and Tannehill vs ATL are also FAs who are available

Flex-non PPR

Josh Gordon @ Min
Michael Floyd @ NO
Eddie Royal @ Ten
Golden Tate vs Jax
Chris Ivory vs Buffalo
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09-16-2013 , 02:21 PM
Also, better Waiver wire Defense for the week....

Cleveland @ Minnesota (can't run on Cleveland)

Minnesota vs Cleveland (lol Weeden, but Gordon is back)
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09-16-2013 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Morsilly1
+1, flip a coin

Standard scoring non ppr pick 1
sjax @ mia
demarco vs stl
bradshaw @ sf

Same as above
bowe @ phi
cecil @ sea
gordon @ min
torey vs hou

No clue with the RB situation but leaning Bowe as my WR2 right now.
I'd go Murray and Bowe.

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Bowe is a no brainer vs Eagles secondary.
I think Demarco is the easy pick as the least bad of a bunch of bad matchups (sjax might be out too)



QBs
Romo vs STL
Pryor @ Den
or pickup Rivers who is a FA @ Ten? I think Romo has got to be my guy, sat him this week though.
Cutler @ Pit and Tannehill vs ATL are also FAs who are available

Flex-non PPR

Josh Gordon @ Min
Michael Floyd @ NO
Eddie Royal @ Ten
Golden Tate vs Jax
Chris Ivory vs Buffalo
Romo and I'd go with Ivory if your matchup feels close, Royal if you're a big underdog.

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Also, better Waiver wire Defense for the week....

Cleveland @ Minnesota (can't run on Cleveland)

Minnesota vs Cleveland (lol Weeden, but Gordon is back)
Cleveland
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09-17-2013 , 08:23 AM
full ppr

cecil shorts vs sea
kenbrell thompkins vs tb
devon bess vs min
bernard pierce vs tex

not sure i wanna do shorts vs. sea, kenbrell is unreliable but maybe with revis pre-occupied he pulls out a good game? bess is never great, but consistent in ppr.

obviously is pierce starts its him, but if rice plays, is he a bench for one of the WRs?
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09-17-2013 , 08:26 AM
here's a fun one:

pick 1 rb and 2 flex, .5ppr:

r bush vs wash
mjd vs sea
j gordon vs min
j thomas vs oak
g jennings vs cle
ben tate vs bal
gronk (if he plays)

leans in bold. if gronk plays, im putting him above thomas, but im not counting on him playing till next week.
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09-17-2013 , 09:24 AM
I would gamble with reggie.

In saying that i have my own decision with reggie.
Reggie bush vs gio benard
Vick vs ryan.

Started vick last week and looked like a genious but im thinking of taking ryans higher floor this week.
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09-17-2013 , 10:53 AM
Sure starters:

RB - Spiller
RB - Richardson
WR - Andre Johnson
WR - Nicks
TE - Olsen
FLEX - ???

Flex options are: Martellus Bennett, Marlon Brown, Ben Tate, Alshon Jeffrey, Woodhead

this is assuming amendola is out
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09-17-2013 , 03:02 PM
Full PPR

Choose 1 WR, 1 RB, 1 flex.

Bush
Garçon
Gronk
Tampa mike
Edelman
Moreno

Obv a lot of this depends on bush and gronk injury updates throughout the week, but I'm leaning bush, garçon, gronk right now. Or bush garçon Edelman if gronk isn't available.

Love the depth I have in this league besides RB, could have worse problems than this

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09-17-2013 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by movieman2g
Kicking this off early with a Thursday night question

Vick vs KC
Luck vs SF

I didn't watch any of either KC game, and considering Romo's line yesterday, I just assume they had a lot of scoring chances and blew them. But was that more KC's D or Romo being Romo? Are we buying that SF is actually a little weaker? Especially if Reid is concussed, which looked pretty bad last night.
Still Vick. The gamble isn't so much KC's D so much as gambling on the Chip O being TNF-proof against a good KC D. On a Sunday, I think this is a lot easier.

Luck is safer, IMO; IND will be throwing and it's still early enough in the season to throw on SF. The upside is just more limited for the obv reasons -- pace, Vick's legs, DJax's big play threat on every down.

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Originally Posted by Morsilly1
+1, flip a coin

Standard scoring non ppr pick 1
sjax @ mia
demarco vs stl
bradshaw @ sf

Same as above
bowe @ phi
cecil @ sea
gordon @ min
torey vs hou

No clue with the RB situation but leaning Bowe as my WR2 right now.
Demarco > Bradshaw > SJax. Just count SJax out until you hear otherwise, and otherwise may mean that he's practicing. Everything is saying 2-4 weeks. If ATL suggests otherwise between now and Sunday, I call bluff if he isn't taking reps. Bradshaw has a good history against this SF D, but starting him over Demarco puts waaaaaaay too much faith in IND's block schemes.

Bowe over the rest by default. You'll need a TD for that 11-12-point upside, but the other three could be total bums this week.

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Bowe is a no brainer vs Eagles secondary.
I think Demarco is the easy pick as the least bad of a bunch of bad matchups (sjax might be out too)



QBs
Romo vs STL
Pryor @ Den
or pickup Rivers who is a FA @ Ten? I think Romo has got to be my guy, sat him this week though.
Cutler @ Pit and Tannehill vs ATL are also FAs who are available

Flex-non PPR

Josh Gordon @ Min
Michael Floyd @ NO
Eddie Royal @ Ten
Golden Tate vs Jax
Chris Ivory vs Buffalo
Romo def over the others. Dropping Pryor for a waiver claim may not be bad, if Rivers, Cutler, and Tanny are all available. Not sure the upside on Pryor is large enough over the others on that horrid team to stash him.

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Also, better Waiver wire Defense for the week....

Cleveland @ Minnesota (can't run on Cleveland)

Minnesota vs Cleveland (lol Weeden, but Gordon is back)
Good lord, that game is gonna suck. Flip a coin. MIN has the better matchup against a Jason Campbell, but CLE can play a low-risk game with Trent and Cameron; also, MIN kinda' sucks. At least CLE has intrinsic defensive hopes in that front 7.

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Originally Posted by movieman2g
full ppr

cecil shorts vs sea
kenbrell thompkins vs tb
devon bess vs min
bernard pierce vs tex

not sure i wanna do shorts vs. sea, kenbrell is unreliable but maybe with revis pre-occupied he pulls out a good game? bess is never great, but consistent in ppr.

obviously is pierce starts its him, but if rice plays, is he a bench for one of the WRs?
I don't know. I think Pierce, actually. TB is really strong, downfield on the outside and SEA ghana SEA. Bess isn't a bad safety play for 4-5 catches, maybe; the upside is just so limited that the difference between him and Pierce feels small enough to just gamble on Pierce scoring somehow to put him over the hump.

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Originally Posted by movieman2g
here's a fun one:

pick 1 rb and 2 flex, .5ppr:

r bush vs wash
mjd vs sea
j gordon vs min
j thomas vs oak
g jennings vs cle
ben tate vs bal
gronk (if he plays)

leans in bold. if gronk plays, im putting him above thomas, but im not counting on him playing till next week.
Gronk > Gordon. Campbell can't get the ball downfield.
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09-17-2013 , 03:36 PM
Have #1 waiver position - I should be taking Royal over Starks, correct? The person I pick up would likely be in my Flex spot.

Edit: nm see there's a waiver thread.
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09-17-2013 , 03:39 PM
full ppr

bradshaw vs sf
d richardson vs dal
quiz rodgers vs mia

lean bradshaw who's probably safest, but quizz at full ppr is really intriguing with no sjax

worth the gamble? fwiw, im projected 10 points below my opponent if that makes a difference
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09-17-2013 , 03:44 PM
On SF D:

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So over those first 31 games, the 49ers allowed an average of 15 points per game exactly. In a stretch between Week 4 and Week 8 of last season, the Niners held four of those five opponents out of the end zone, including a 13-6 win over Seattle.

And then Week 15 happened.

San Francisco led the Patriots 17-3 at the half and looked well on their way to asserting further dominance over an NFL powerhouse, but then Justin Smith got hurt. New England scored 31 points in the second half, but the 49ers held out for the 41-34 win.

The following week, they lost 42-13 to the Seahawks.

Having allowed 30+ just once in Fangio's first 31 games, the Niners allowed 30+ in four of their last six games, including playoffs. Since allowing 15 points per game in the beginning of the Harbaugh era, they've allowed 29.375 points per game in eight games since. Their best defensive effort in that time span has been allowing 13 points to the 2012 Arizona Cardinals offense, and that's not much of an accomplishment.

Of course, there are plausible reasons for this.

They have played the Seahawks twice, the Packers twice, the Falcons, the Ravens, and the Patriots. Those are all good offenses and it's understandable why a team like San Francisco would have a harder time stopping them than they would, say, the Cardinals.

However, I'd also point out that over a full season's pace, that would be 470 points allowed. The Titans allowed the most points last season: 471 points.

Notable changes this year are the losses of Dashon Goldson, Isaac Sopoaga, and Ricky Jean-Francois. They were replaced by players like Eric Reid and Glenn Dorsey, plus the acquisition of Nnamdi Asomugha. That's where the news get worse for San Francisco.
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2013/9/16/...baugh-seahawks

I think there's a case to be made that the SF defense is off, and there's more evidence than just 2 games. It wasn't good in the playoffs or end of last year, either.
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09-17-2013 , 03:47 PM
I dont even look at projections. Its just some other fat bald dude typing input into the computer on the other end, I go with what I feel to be the best.

im personally starting Richardson over Bradshaw in a PPR
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09-17-2013 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
On SF D:



http://www.fieldgulls.com/2013/9/16/...baugh-seahawks

I think there's a case to be made that the SF defense is off, and there's more evidence than just 2 games. It wasn't good in the playoffs or end of last year, either.
ive thought this was the case just didnt know there was data on it.

makes a tougher case for luck vs. SF over vick vs. KC

also would've been nice to read before i drafted the SF D in half my leagues

thanks for the share though
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09-17-2013 , 06:22 PM
Vick vs. KC
RGIII vs. DET

Leaning towards Vick. Thoughts?
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09-17-2013 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by richlath3r
Vick vs. KC
RGIII vs. DET

Leaning towards Vick. Thoughts?
Tough but I'd do RGIII for the better matchup. There will be more scoring in the WAS DET game. KC is a good D, much better than WAS/SD. At some point the Chip O needs to come down to earth...right?

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09-17-2013 , 10:05 PM
Start 2, PPR

Edelman v TB
Wayne @ SF
Bowe @ PHI


Start 1, PPR

Bernard v GB
Shorts @ SEA
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09-17-2013 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wangpirate
Full PPR

Choose 1 WR, 1 RB, 1 flex.

Bush vs wsh
Garçon vs det
Gronk vs tampa
Tampa mike vs NE
Edelman vs Tampa
Moreno vs oak

Obv a lot of this depends on bush and gronk injury updates throughout the week, but I'm leaning bush, garçon, gronk right now. Or bush garçon Edelman if gronk isn't available.

Love the depth I have in this league besides RB, could have worse problems than this
Bump
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09-17-2013 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wangpirate
Bump
I like your leans. Maybe I am crazy but even with the OAK garbage time I need to see more consistency from Moreno before considering bumping him ahead of any of those guys.
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09-18-2013 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by childress
Start 2, PPR

Edelman v TB
Wayne @ SF
Bowe @ PHI


Start 1, PPR

Bernard v GB
Shorts @ SEA
Edelman and Bowe (IMO, Edelman is a must start in PPRs at the moment)

bernard

i have 10 teams and 0 Jags players on any of them, for a reason.
factor in they are playing IN seattle against that secondary.. and yeah lol
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09-18-2013 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
On SF D:



http://www.fieldgulls.com/2013/9/16/...baugh-seahawks

I think there's a case to be made that the SF defense is off, and there's more evidence than just 2 games. It wasn't good in the playoffs or end of last year, either.
Thanks for sharing this. Field Gulls has done great stuff.





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Originally Posted by childress
Start 2, PPR

Edelman v TB
Wayne @ SF
Bowe @ PHI


Start 1, PPR

Bernard v GB
Shorts @ SEA
Bench Bowe and Shorts here. TNF sucks for passing games like those run by QBs as non-great as Alex Smith and Shorts is gonna disappear against Sherman.
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09-18-2013 , 12:54 AM
Start 2, PPR

Edelman vs. TB
Wallace vs. ATL
Decker vs. OAK
James Jones @ CIN

I've pretty much eliminated JJ. Having a really hard time between the other three, leaning toward JE and MW. Thoughts?

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Alternate question... if Rice plays, start 1, PPR:

Gio vs. GB
Pierce vs. HOU

(I'll be starting Pierce if Rice is out, obv.)
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