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11-21-2016 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
The merger looks a done deal. Have no idea how they will run it. Will they keep all the different sports from each site ? Or discard some and keep some ? Will rake come down or go further up ? Lots of questions.

NBA with no late swap looks pre-emptive move before a merger. So guessing they will modify the other games too. I play small volume on Fan Duel soccer, to be honest can not be bothered much to work out their scoring.
Scrapping the FD scoring would suck. It's a much better system imo and is better aligned with how well the player is actually playing. Also it's much more geared to the UK and European market. Why the **** does a cross score so highly in DK?

Also the game is pretty soft, will be annoying if it goes.
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11-21-2016 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jeccross
Scrapping the FD scoring would suck. It's a much better system imo and is better aligned with how well the player is actually playing. Also it's much more geared to the UK and European market. Why the **** does a cross score so highly in DK?

Also the game is pretty soft, will be annoying if it goes.
Agreed Fan Duel scoring is much superior and all-rounded. Just saying it does take a bit of time to get used to it. I could see it being successful in the long-term. Appreciate how they offer the full 10 fixtures of a gameweek in one go as well, with the added plus of allowing one to play a variety formations which is a must.

I do not play much DK soccer and scoring is not my cup of tea. I saw Neymar at the weekend had no goals and assist but with 27 crosses, only three shots on target. Neymar managed to score 37.3 DK points. That is absurd for crosses to be scored like this and makes for a ****ty gameplay.

While in NFL, a player will need more than two touchdowns and rush 100 plus yards to get anywhere near 37.3 DK points. So hopefully Fan Duel might teach DK on how to create an original gameplay for soccer after the merger.
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11-21-2016 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean
Still haven't received any money from mondogoal, I've been trying to withdraw for almost two months now. Kinda pissed that some other players received their money even before I was contacted to say the withdrawal should go through (two weeks ago), glad for them though.
Just keep trying them, it has taken me ages in the past (think they only have one guy dealing with it). Sucks though in general, the way they have run the site is atrocious imo. Withdrew from there a while ago and haven't gone back since, it's their own fault

Last edited by TWhelan; 11-21-2016 at 10:09 PM. Reason: definitely withdraw asap
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11-22-2016 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
Agreed Fan Duel scoring is much superior and all-rounded. Just saying it does take a bit of time to get used to it. I could see it being successful in the long-term. Appreciate how they offer the full 10 fixtures of a gameweek in one go as well, with the added plus of allowing one to play a variety formations which is a must.

I do not play much DK soccer and scoring is not my cup of tea. I saw Neymar at the weekend had no goals and assist but with 27 crosses, only three shots on target. Neymar managed to score 37.3 DK points. That is absurd for crosses to be scored like this and makes for a ****ty gameplay.

While in NFL, a player will need more than two touchdowns and rush 100 plus yards to get anywhere near 37.3 DK points. So hopefully Fan Duel might teach DK on how to create an original gameplay for soccer after the merger.
Yeah, totally agree. Centre backs also are almost worthless in DK too (due to the crosses thing), but every position in FD is a reasonable pick.
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11-22-2016 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jeccross
Scrapping the FD scoring would suck. It's a much better system imo and is better aligned with how well the player is actually playing. Also it's much more geared to the UK and European market. Why the **** does a cross score so highly in DK?
Agree 100%.
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11-22-2016 , 08:20 PM
Hey Guys I got a Mail and would like you to know that Fanaments annouced they will close at 1.december. I guess you should withdraw your money now, they ask users to do so to the 1.12. so better be safe then sorry!
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11-22-2016 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nazgul1online
Hey Guys I got a Mail and would like you to know that Fanaments annouced they will close at 1.december. I guess you should withdraw your money now, they ask users to do so to the 1.12. so better be safe then sorry!
Yes, go the message on my inbox while making line-up for NBA game. That is professional from them to let people know in advance and asking that we should withdraw our funds. Hope the other DFS platforms take notice and allow people to take their funds out before they close. Mondogoal's attitude is very unprofessional and ignoring customers request for fund withdrawal is uncalled.

DFS in Europe seems in flux with some closing and some opening up even expanding. Playon have revamped the site, they now offer multi-sports (Football, Golf, Cricket & Basketball). Playon are one of the pioneers of DFS in Europe and they seem to be going strong. Fan Team have revamped the site as well and offering multi-sports (Football, Hockey and Basketball). Picklive has stopped desktop version and have opened an excellent app based version of their game. Premier Punt have an excellent app for their single game version of their game.

Then you have new platforms such as Sportito, MatchdayFantasy, EveryFan and soon to open ChalkDFS based from Spain. The more sites the merrier and prefer that over one or two big sites dominating it. So not all negative and actually us the players can have a lot of choices in the coming months.
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11-23-2016 , 03:43 AM
I guess the writing was on the wall with no twitter activity since June.

Quite liked the platform and a multi-sport offering should have given them a chance of success but choice of Stats provider wasn't ideal.
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11-23-2016 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
Yes, go the message on my inbox while making line-up for NBA game. That is professional from them to let people know in advance and asking that we should withdraw our funds. Hope the other DFS platforms take notice and allow people to take their funds out before they close. Mondogoal's attitude is very unprofessional and ignoring customers request for fund withdrawal is uncalled.

DFS in Europe seems in flux with some closing and some opening up even expanding. Playon have revamped the site, they now offer multi-sports (Football, Golf, Cricket & Basketball). Playon are one of the pioneers of DFS in Europe and they seem to be going strong. Fan Team have revamped the site as well and offering multi-sports (Football, Hockey and Basketball). Picklive has stopped desktop version and have opened an excellent app based version of their game. Premier Punt have an excellent app for their single game version of their game.

Then you have new platforms such as Sportito, MatchdayFantasy, EveryFan and soon to open ChalkDFS based from Spain. The more sites the merrier and prefer that over one or two big sites dominating it. So not all negative and actually us the players can have a lot of choices in the coming months.
Personally I think you'd be mad to deposit money with an unknown start up, it's just asking for trouble.
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11-23-2016 , 01:23 PM
The problem in the UK is there is not much clarity about players funds be it a start-up or established gaming/gambling sites. All you are told is as part of the licence requirement players funds are segregated in a separate account. But if you check properly most only have the basic protection of funds and only one major bookmaker (Coral) has full protection of funds.

So always best to leave a small amount of playing money one can afford to lose. Make regular withdrawals and if sites can not process withdrawal then best not to play there. Do not give them any excuse about verification, send all documentation at the start to get one account fully verified.
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11-23-2016 , 01:30 PM
[QUOTE=Britton;51244113]I guess the writing was on the wall with no twitter activity since June.

Quite liked the platform and a multi-sport offering should have given them a chance of success but choice of Stats provider wasn't ideal.[/QUOiTE]

Yes, liked the platform too. They had multi-sports and fun game play. Stats provider was odd guess it was cheaper than Opta. The problem with a lot of these sites is how do they get exposure without marketing. Having a Twitter account is not enough, without marketing it will just be a few people that will know the site. To go the extra mile to get a licence to then not market the product makes no sense.
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11-24-2016 , 04:23 AM
Yes, they didn't even a run a blog to support their product from what I can see. How hard can that be?

That's another area Mondo have failed miserably in as well after starting one initially.
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11-24-2016 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
But if you check properly most only have the basic protection of funds and only one major bookmaker (Coral) has full protection of funds.
Other UK bookmakers are established brands at least with a high street presence, therefore there will be some outcry if they steal funds.

That's not the same for some internet startup. I don't get why you wouldn't just stick to DK and FD?
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11-24-2016 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jeccross
Other UK bookmakers are established brands at least with a high street presence, therefore there will be some outcry if they steal funds.

That's not the same for some internet startup. I don't get why you wouldn't just stick to DK and FD?
There is a grey area and not much legal recourse with funds left in betting account. Bet it established brand or start-ups best to make regular withdrawals and leave little playing money there.

As for DK and FD, I play there too. FD is new here and offer only soccer. DK's prize pools are alluring but the rake is close to unbeatable now and place is filled with sharks. Smaller sites have better gameplay, lower rake, good chance to cash and yet not infested with sharks. In short, still fun with some edge in smaller sites.
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11-24-2016 , 01:45 PM
What use is bigger edge and lower rake if you can never withdraw?


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11-24-2016 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Badboi4321
What use is bigger edge and lower rake if you can never withdraw?


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I have withdrawn fine from most sites I play. Even Mondo I managed to withdraw despite it taking a while. Just do not treat betting sites as a bank and leave too much there. The Gambling commission has details on all this.

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk...ember-2015.pdf

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk...mer-funds.aspx

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk...ommission.aspx
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11-25-2016 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
DK's prize pools are alluring but the rake is close to unbeatable now and place is filled with sharks.
so DK is legit unbeatable?
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11-25-2016 , 10:01 AM
Hey also this was probally a bad week with fanaments leaving DFS, I think there are
some goodnews aswell. I slowly realisze prizepools are rising.

For example FantasyBet has a great Promo where you can get a33pound ticket with a
deposit of 60pounds

(for more info go to: http://11heroes.com/promo-fantasybet...deposit-bonus/ )

And other sites aswell are slowly increasing their prizepoools aswell. Garrincha made a nice comment regarding the offer DFS in Europe.

I am really keen if DFS can capture Europe and when
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11-25-2016 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Poncheezied
so DK is legit unbeatable?


Nope, still beatable


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11-27-2016 , 11:23 AM
Is there any site which offers micro stakes NBA/Soccer in Europe and is playable outside of the UK?

Now that Fanaments is closing I only see 1$+ stakes on the sites that still operate in Europe.
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11-27-2016 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Poncheezied
so DK is legit unbeatable?
Depends on the stakes I'd have thought.

Draft kings need to sort their keeper pricing. Worse sub keepers priced only a bit lower than the first choice keeper doesn't make sense.
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11-27-2016 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LouB22
Depends on the stakes I'd have thought.



Draft kings need to sort their keeper pricing. Worse sub keepers priced only a bit lower than the first choice keeper doesn't make sense.


Definitely makes sense. Otherwise a GK is ruled out and everyone just plays the ridiculously low priced GK playing in his place. They are priced up on a Team basis


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11-27-2016 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Badboi4321
Definitely makes sense. Otherwise a GK is ruled out and everyone just plays the ridiculously low priced GK playing in his place. They are priced up on a Team basis


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I'm not saying the backup keeper should be "ridiculously low priced", just more sensibly priced. Like, if DeGea is $5900 then Romero should be something like $5100 rather than $5800, cause he ain't no DeGea. Pricing on a team basis undermines the keeper's influence.
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11-27-2016 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brombaer
Is there any site which offers micro stakes NBA/Soccer in Europe and is playable outside of the UK?

Now that Fanaments is closing I only see 1$+ stakes on the sites that still operate in Europe.
The only other ones I know that offer NBA are PlayOn and FanTeam. Have not seen others that offer NBA and maybe some could fill the gap. Still surprised Europe based DFS have not gone the multi-sport route.

For soccer have a look at Sportito they do offer micro stakes and they are an Italian DFS site that opened in the UK very recently, so might be available outside the UK. Drop them a line and see what they say.

http://www.igamingbusiness.com/news/...rts-service-uk

https://www.sportito.com

https://twitter.com/sportitodfs
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11-30-2016 , 04:30 PM
Update on mondogoal withdrawal: finally got paid on Nov 22nd after nearly 2 months. Still doesn't seem to be any GPPs for this week (3rd week running or so?), given that non-guaranteed tournaments never run, I assume they just get a few HUs/5-mans a week?
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