just checked the damage. after 3 straight good all around weeks, it all came crashing down.

i had 15 teams in contention and they went a combined 9 and 21. on the bright side my strong team (ranked 11 now) clinched the playoffs, despite going 0-2.

i have 7 teams left in contention, but proly need 2-0 weeks from all.

oh ya, just to add, the main fail was the cardinals defense getting torched by carolina and putting up -3.

I have 1 team in the finals, 1 team in 2nd and can clinch with 2 pts or 1 pt with the #3 player scoring less than 37 pts more than me.

and nothing else. I would have had 2 other teams in serious contention had I played Randy Moss during the snowstorm.

im a clinch in one league and decent favorite in 2 others. a strong week will likely put me thru in 4 other leagues.

i have 4 other teams at 9-7 that may have a slim chance. not gonna pore over those.

i had 3 teams in contention. 1 is out now. I was down 40 with deangelo williams rivers brees and 1 wr left vs his sidney rice and vjax. and the other 2 need to 2-0 to make it now

4 teams have clinched, 3 teams are out. The other 7 I'm still in, but in 2 of those I need a lot of help from other teams. If I can get the other 5 in though, I'd be really satisfied w/ 9 of 14 teams playing for the title. It's doubtful, but possible. Only 1 of my 4 Q-school teams is going to make the championship game. Good luck all!

Just wondered if anyone else screwed themselves in FAAB this week? With this being the last week of FAAB, I spend ALL of my money during the FAAB period in several leagues. I forgot that they charge $1 per player picked up on waivers after the period has ended, so I have several teams that will be rolling without a kicker this week (Longwell) or next week (Tynes) since I am not allowed to participate in waivers. I think this process is absurd. Players should be free after the FAAB period has ended, or they should at least prompt you to warn you that you must have $ left in order to particiapate in waivers, especially during the final week of FAAB. I'm pretty pissed right now. This could cost me several leagues.

i knew about the rule but still screwed myself due to simple mismanagement. i will be rolling without a wr if i happen to make the finals in a tier 1 league.

also, in another league, i purposely left 1 dollar to snag a kicker this week bc i have longwell. like a moron i did not check matchups and picked up janikowski on bye. that particular team is in a 3 way tie for first at 12-4.

I have 3 teams in the championship game already that have Tynes next week and no backup. This is the dumbest rule I've seen yet and is so important that it should at least be posted on the pickup page prior to final week bidding. I'm pretty pissed.

i reverse ****ed myself. i didnt use all my points so i could save like 3-4 bucks ot fix up my roster and i missed out on moats by a few pts in one and i tied for somene else and didnt get him

There was a ton of posts written about this last year on their forums, and several people missed out on moving forward due to them not having backup Kickers or Defenses. This was a such a large issue last year, there really is no excuse for not having known this if you did your due diligence.

Rule of thumb, especially in High Stakes events where you are competing against competent owners. Figure out your roster requirements and make sure you have two D's and two Kickers, at least 1 week before your bye week or end of the season. It sounds crazy to take up 4 roster spots on these positions but you will need to regardless if you are going to make the playoffs, and in my own bad luck experiences, prepare for the worst.

Basically every HS event begins to shut down their waiver wire, either a week or 2 weeks before the start of playoffs to prevent collusion so you also have to take that into consideration.

I normally do. I always read over everything prior to the season starting. It's just an odd format having the waiver period after the FAAB period and charging $1/player. I guess I didn't realize I was being charged and it says nothing about it when you pick up a player. I believe before you execute the pickup, it should prompt you that you're spending $1. As for last yr, I didn't play in the contest. The forums don't have posts from last yr, I don't believe. I guess I will know next yr. I should be ok after I get past the next two weeks. Hopefully it doesn't cost me big. It's likely to cost me some league championships, but I'm tier 2, so I will already be in the vegas bracket.

I agree with the above posters regarding the FAAB process. It's the 9th week already. Didnt you notice anytime you picked up a FA the 1st 8 weeks that it would take $1 off of your available $$.

It amazes me that people play in $ leagues and do not read the rules, know the scoring system, etc....actually the more I think about it....

It really does not surprise me, as that is why FF is a very +ev proposition for fantasy sharks. I guess I should not assume that all owners know simple ff 101 basics.

As most reading this forum should know...FF is 33%draft skill, 33% in season management skill, and 33% luck. However I think that the 33% luck factor gets decreased by the fact that other owners will make basic FF 101 mistakes.

This is my 1st year in FFOC. I have 7 of 8 teams in the vegas bracket, all are tier 2 teams and will be playing for the championship next week...I have extremely tough matchups from what I can see so far and the owners who I think I will be playing will all have full squads, as will I....1 team has jacobs, 2 have slaton, and 1 has steve smith, and 1 has andre johnson...but I knew that 3/4 weeks ago and had planned for them not being available, so we shall see....if you look back in the thread I posted some of my teams....

My basic strategy for the most part for all teams was to draft 2 stud qb's in the top 5 rounds. I wanted Bree/Brady/Manning/Rodgers/rivers/McNabb/Romo/Warner....I wanted 2 of those qbs, that didnt happen a couple times so my next qb was rothlesberger.

With all 8 teams, I also only had 2 play a non qb in op only once in 1 week.

As a side not, I will be looking to manage approx 100 teams next year in various high stakes leagues, with a few other assistant managers who I have met and who share the same FF work ethic and knowledge...if you would like us to either help you manage or 100% manage your teams, please hit me up so we can discuss fees/%'s.

Thanks!!

I love the part where you talk down on people without knowing the facts and then expect people to actually do this without posting verifiable results.

Ahhh the D-baggery.

this is impressive. or lucky.

Haha. Maybe you should hire him and see which it is. According to what I'm sure is his highly educated mathematical formula in his post above, it is 33% luck after all. I'm also sure that he's thought about the payouts of most fantasy leagues as well where very few payout more than 70%/league. So if you're splitting profits 50/50 and you get first place, usually 50%, you get:
70% Total Payout*50% First Place=35% of total pot*50% split=17.5%-8.3% entry fee (assuming 12 team league)=9.2% profit.

Want to see 2nd place? Usually 30% payout!
70% Total Payout*30% 2nd Place=21% of total pot*50% split=10.5-8.3% entry fee (assuming 12 team league)=2.2% profit.

It's obvious 3rd would be a losing proposition.

And that's for a 70% league. Fanball and CBS only payout 50%. There are others that payout more, but there is very little traffic, so good luck getting in 100 leagues on those. I mean any smart investor would likely do this since you have to get first or 2nd to profit and profit very little w/ 2nd place, right? Especially since there's a 33% luck factor per the posters marketing post. LOL!

How'd you end up, Victor?

Didnt mean to come off like a dick...I went back and checked the forums and you are right, I was surprised they took down all the posts from last year...especially pertaining to alot of the rules that are different from other HS contests. There was a ton of great posts and information that would definitely help those who didnt get to learn from all the tough mistakes that were made in the first year of the event.

Good luck in the Vegas bracket...

No worries! You didn't come off like a dick. I just felt I needed to explain myself. It's the self-proclaimed fantasy expert that talks down on people, and then expects you to hire him to run your teams, that came off that way. Good luck to you as well!

11-7, 7-11, 7-11, 6-12, 10-8, 10-8, 12-6 (2nd place if total points is the tie breaker), 7-11, 14-4 (1st), 7-11, 7-11, 4-14.

My 12-6 team is #370 overall and has a well rounded squad.

Peterson, Barber, Wells
Rodgers, Cutler
Ocho, Marshall, V Jackson, Driver
Shockey/Heap

My only 1st place team is #1262 and has real holes at WR- but has stud RBs

MJD, Chris Johnson, Kevin Smith, Addai,
Warner, Romo

WRs though are- Mason, Henderson, Ginn, Holt, Coles, Wallace. Hopefully the Mason, Holt, Coles combo can get me ~20 pts each week and then I'll be leaning on my RBs and QBs to carry me over the cut line should I win this week.

i had 24 teams, tho 2 were autodrafted. 5 teams have made their league finals, 4 of which were tier 2 and a single tier 1. 2 teams were very close, losing by 3 and 8 points. one of my teams currently is in 10th.

i feel i drafted very well over all but was a mediocre at best manager in terms of playing decisions and free agent pickups.

Vic-you are the type of guy this service, that I offer, would be perfect for.

You had 2 teams autodraft-that would never happen....you also said so yourself, that you were a medicocre manager at best...and you know that is a very big part of FF. I applaud you for admitting that though...as the other poster in this thread who commented, probably doesnt realize that he is not optimally managing his team. Hit me up Victor...I'll let you know how my FFOC teams do in the Vegas Bracket...

Also to the other poster regarding 70% and 60% payouts...I do not know what $50/$100 leagues you are playing in, but for High stakes FF....payouts are 90+%. You obvioulsy have absolutley no clue what you are talking about...but I guess that makes sense since you sign up for leagues where you do not read the rules and then whine about it.

LOL! This belongs in the Marketplace, not here. You are so pathetic. Here you go again talking down to people. Basically calling the 10th place guy an inadequate manager.

As for myself, I do have 9 of 14 in the championship game/vegas bracket, while missing by less than 10 pts in 2 other leagues. I am also in line to make it to the playoffs, as of this week, in 3 of my 4 High Stakes Leagues (WCOFF, AFFL, and NFFC). I have been profitable in fantasy sports ever since I was 18 yrs old and old enough to play competitively for money. Know the facts before you start talking smack.

As for the High Stakes leagues paying out 90%+...show me the data. I'm willing to put any amount of money on it that less than 75% of the High Stakes leagues (I.E.- NFFC, AFFL, WCOFF, Rotobowl, etc.) pay that much out. You post all of these percentages, but you can't back up any of it. It all comes from thin air. FFOC may have paid out that much last yr because it was their first yr. Most High Stakes leagues take losses in their first couple years, but don't forget it's an annuity you are winning.

Show me the facts! We can bet on the 90%+. Name the $ amount and we will find someone to escrow. I'm calling you out!

Oh, where are your results from all of these High Stakes leagues. You can't get backing in poker without posting historical data. How is anyone going to back you in Fantasy Sports without the results to show you are a top player. Post the results along w/ your name so we can research it.

yawn....I will play you heads up anywhere anytime...I will post all my results at the end of the year. Check out Antsports, $1000 leagues pay over 88% to be precise and 5% discount for returning customers....pay up big talker. You really are clueless about FF...no wonder why you are struggling. If you do not want to pay to be a part of my service, well then you can continue to lose and you can continue to make up excuses as to why you are losing; i.e dumb rules, only lost by less than 10 pts, if it wasnt for such and such player, didnt realize the draft was easter standard time....keep making up excuses while the rest of us keep making $$$$.

Odd that you call me "big talker" when you're the one that claims to be the fantasy expert, but refuse to post historical results. It's clear you haven't been a winning player in the past, or you would post your results. Why would anyone ever pay you 1/2 of their winnings when they can pay $30-$50 for website access to some of the industry's best players HISTORICALLY? It doesn't make financial sense.

You clearly have reading comprehension issues as well since you call me a losing player even though I clearly stated I've been profitable since I was old enough to play fantasy sports for money, but you can believe what you want with that. I'm not the one claiming to be better than everyone else. Take a look at my previous posts in this topic and I give people their due congratulations as well as positive feedback. I don't put people down and then expect them to buy my service that has nothing backing it up.

Not only do you have reading comprehension issues, but you also have basic math issues. AntSports pays out 87% in their 1k leagues, not 88%. Even if it were 88%, 88% total return + 5% discount on YOUR fee does NOT equal 90%+ overall payout, which you claimed previously. They also likely have the highest payouts around, because they have to since their site sucks. Not to mention you plan to enter 100+ HS leagues next yr, but Ant only had 16 1k leagues this yr....which I'm sure you were in all of them.

Yeah 9 of 14 is obviously struggling as is 3/4 in HS leagues. I'm clearly not as good as you, as your results that you just posted might suggest.

Take your service to the Marketplace where it belongs. Advertise there with everyone else that offers services so I can watch you get flamed out of the building.

You're probably the most pathetic person I've ever seen on this site. Take your negative attitude out of this thread. The rest of us were getting along just fine without some self-proclaimed d-bag fantasy expert trying to tell us we are incompetent owners. Especially one that can't back up his own words.

I'm still waiting on proof of the 90%+ payouts for HS fantasy leagues. My offer still stands for any amount of $. We will even have a trusted escrow hold the money.

WOW...the more you try and respond the dimmer you prove to be-

#1) I never said I wanted someone to pay me 1/2 their winnings. GO back and check the posts. Although reading comprehension is obviously one of the many areas you are flawed. Thats laready been proven and you proved it yourself.
#2) Please check out the following other 2 high stakes websites ofr 90+% payouts.

The AFFL.com

$5000 The Big Payback™

Regular Season Prizes: Seed #1 and Seed #2 - $5,000 each

League Playoffs:
1st Place: $25,000
2nd Place: $15,000
3rd Place: $5,000

and check out TheFFPC.com

I wont even bother trying to collect from you, because you are all talk, but if you are really man enough, PM me and I'll tell you where to send the check.

You are correct about Antsports...it is 87% with a 5% discount to your $1000fee....arent you really making my point here...you in your previuos thread were stating 80% and lower payouts...that is just giving everyone who reads these threads misinformation. Please stop posting, no one wants to hear you whine about the FAAB process and how you didnt know how it worked....as far as your results go...I already stated it was 33% luck, so consider yourself lucky this year and be on your way.

scance, do you do player rankings per week? i always pick the wrong starter it seems.