one of the most heard complaints is that scripting knowledge shouldnt be a factor in playing fantasy sports. now it doesnt exist.

there is also a hard line of "nothing that is not offered by the site is allowed" which avoids the current lol policy of "if a high volume player we like asks us to use something then we'll let him"

First part is 100% false.

You can still run scripts on your computer to do things like scrape player data, and spit out optimal lineups or value plays. Then you can have a script easily convert those lineups into a csv file and upload it using the dk tool. So someone like max will still have a huge edge due to scripting. He's able to identify the best values and overall plays using scripts, regardless of whether he can upload them to dk using his custom script or the one they provide.

It's not a bad thing, just how it works. The best players will have an edge no matter what, unless they do something like put out extremely sharp player pricing or pricing that varies somehow when new info comes out.

In some ways this might increase a good player's edge.

It's possible, probably likely, that the pros had custom tools that let them mass update lineups after an early game locked. So say one player on your teams is locked in, but you have 100 teams. Now late news breaks, a bunch of spurs are resting. Okay, click a button, import your updated projections, spit out new lineups with the locked player still in, upload them to dk for a fast edit.

That's virtually impossible to do by hand, so automating it would be a huge edge. If news breaks 5 min before tip, there's literally no way to edit 100 lineups by hand just because the site won't load fast enough. You'd need a script or some automated way around it.

Also things like global player swap that allows you to swap players in with higher salaries. So say you have a team with $500 salary leftover, and a $3100 punt player is ruled out. You can't global swap a player in for $3200-3600 because the dk software only lets you swap someone in who costs the same or less. But you have enough salary to fit someone up to $3600 in this case. A script could probably overcome that and save huge time.

Why doesn't dk or some new site just make separate lobbies based on your player experience? Anyone who has played up to $10k in buyins is in one lobby, playing only vs others with the same restrictions. Or base it on W-L record. Or money lost/won. Make an entire beginners room with all the games, h2h, 50/50, gpp, everything. You could custom create restrictions so that only players who signed up in the last 6 months and average $500 or less wagered per day are allowed. Something like that would be hugely popular.

Then maybe allow those beginners to play other higher lobbies but put a warning or make them click "I agree" that this lobby has much more experienced players some of which might be pros or whatever.

you are saying its false that scripting is a constant source of complaint and this policy will effectively end that complaint?

go be terrible on some other site adgci

1k max will hurt RGs bottom line, tough to say how much but they definitely had some whales under them. The players listed are just RG ranked, doesn't mean they signed up under RG, although I'm sure some have.

RG was far more vital to the big 2 a few years back than it is now.

Because the sites are trying to make money and kicking out/making things not profitable for a small percentage of people who pay a large amount of rake isn't a gold idea.

In other industry news, FanDuel has changed the font in the contest scoring page.

Nothing dk did today will "end" scripting. Read what I wrote above.

The only way DK can stop scripting is by removing the ability to import lineups. These changes are pandering to the top tier players, and I doubt DK will enforce this policy when it comes down to it. Do you think they will suspend or ban condia or maxdalury for using scripts?

An onsite DK script is going to wipe out new depositors and weaker players much quicker. "OH, I can enter 100 lineups like the big boys...It's so easy to do...**** I lost...DK is rigged...DFS sucks..." and another dfs player bites the dust.

Some people will never be satisfied. Can't deal with those negative people.

No, they did sign up through RG like I explained in my last post:

$ sign next to DK on the player profile page. I suppose it could be that they bought "incentives" and didn't sign up through RG, but I doubt it, esp those guys.

But like Ray said these changes might not even affect affiliates. I haven't looked around today but if there's no big outcry Ray is probably right, as anyone with a whale (or dozens like RG) would really be taking it in the shorts.

Phil Ivey with great timing as usual. Wonder who in DFS he has partnered with.

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2016/0...site-23900.htm

Well for one thing. I don't believe the DK importer will let you mass edit already created lineups or edit lineups after one game starts. People will still have to manually edit those

That would be a big change, but it isn't the end of scripting. That's also pretty stupid. Lots of small time grinders like to enter the quarter arcade or $3 sharpshooter with 5+ lineups. 50 entries to the quarter arcade is a few bucks. But you can't enter final lineups because by the time news breaks the tourney will be full. Just seems like a huge pain for some people.

The fish are just looking for something or someone to blame for their losses. One day it's injuries, the next, late news they didn't catch, after that, someone is mass entering "all" the combos of lineups, and then it's the ads that tricked them. Someone like max will win no matter what. And without the high stakes, Mass multi entry players, the milly maker as we know it just won't exist. Hopefully no fish enjoy the thrill of $20 to win a million.

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Would be nice if draftkings gave some better editing tools on the ap (like being able to mass swap a more expensive player if you have the cap room.)

But yes, this won't change much. The big advantage the best players is the tools they are using to create their lineups (whether it's their own knowledge or the computer programs they have or designed to create lineups)...I guess there is some chance big players can't enter quite as many lineups or maybe their editing won't be as quick.

The best change the sites can make is to make more tools available to your average player to edit lineups.

Nebraska is having a DFS hearing: http://www.netnebraska.org/interacti...s-room-1510-13

Joe you've said itt for months that there's no reason for anyone to be concerned for deposits on FD or DK. "investors...US companies....this isn't poker" ect.

you seriously have no idea if there's even a legal mechanism to recover balances in the event of an insolvency? then how have you been so confident all this time balances are safe?

I have been an advocate for DFS (as I work in the industry and love the game), and have repeatedly brought up the distinct differences between the poor comparisons between poker and DFS. (And dont get me wrong, I love poker, still play and coach often.)

I am in no position to give legal advice, seriously. I could give my opinion but that is not going to help. I am not a lawyer (where Gzesh is.)

By all means if you feel your funds are unsafe, withdraw.

so you've consistently posted variations of "the $ on DK and FD is safe", but don't actually know that to be the case?

I mean, its either I'm wrong and you haven't been saying that for months or you...forgot the reason for saying that? you made it seem, from a position of "authority", that it was silly to even question the security of balances. now you're saying you don't know what would make them secure?

Here Gzesh is. (but, Why are you posting in Yoda-speak ?)

Okay, if a DFS site based in the US were to fail to account for customers' money, and stiff customer creditors ..... there likely would be legal recourse in whatever jurisdiction the DFS site is organized or operates or declares bankruptcy or whatever.

That does not mean there necessarily would be any funds available to pay customers 100% or even 5%, for a variety of reasons too long to discuss here for free.

Here's the bottom line...fanduel and draftkings have paid out 100s of millions in prizes over the last 5 years. Before all the controversies this year they were basically printing money. Of course if they somehow stopped paying people out their credibility would be gone and so would their money printing. But yes if something changes legally that would basically be the only threat to these companies paying out the money...

However, if you use a no name site and something happens to your money you should be a lot less surprised...some of these companies may be making promises they can't keep (bonuses, etc....if it sounds to good their is obviously some chance their business can't continue.).

So you should not be linking the two togrther...

Thanks David. I know not of this Yoda person, of which you speak.

Correct. All I have ever said is to stop making poker market/company comparisons (and outlined many differences.)

If you feel unsafe, which seemingly you do, withdraw.