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10-19-2015 , 07:05 AM
Damn I guess I played my last day as a Floridian
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10-19-2015 , 08:32 AM
just hit up local florida chain Gators and have a couple of drinks
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10-19-2015 , 08:44 AM
They banned Poker, they banned DFS, and I still place bets on spreads.

I think there is a lesson to be learned somewhere...
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10-19-2015 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNonPareil
Damn I guess I played my last day as a Floridian
What's going to go down today? If it is my last day, I'll officially be down $200.80. That assumes I win my two-day baseball contest. I started playing DK only last November, so I'm pretty sure I've paid at least that much in rake.

Incidentally, I was going to cash in my points for tickets this morning, hoping they would then be converted to cash when I check out, and I see the VIP store not selling tickets....just lighters and assorted junk. Figures.

Ethan was good at DFS. Bad at Jenga. That's right.
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10-19-2015 , 09:16 AM
Update. DK VIP store is still selling contest tickets. They've just changed the format of the page, making it a bit harder to find the offers.
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10-19-2015 , 09:32 AM
they also made them more expensive
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10-19-2015 , 09:45 AM
Lol everyone cashing in because DFS is dead within a month and DK is still doing unethical things. Cool.
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10-19-2015 , 10:22 AM
Did everyone sign Fanduels petition? Are there others like it? The only thing that scares a politician is losing votes.50 million DFS players who vote should have some influence.
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10-19-2015 , 10:27 AM
Links to petitions? I'll sign them.
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10-19-2015 , 10:40 AM
Will sites like these be the new DFS? The format is very similar to DFS. That is interesting in itself. And with rakes of 9 or 10 percent, it seems to be a better way to bet on horses than the traditional method which has a much higher rake.


https://www.horsetourneys.com/


https://www.derbywars.com/
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10-19-2015 , 11:57 AM
Lol fantasy horse betting legal tho..

Politicians are so corrupt
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10-19-2015 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
FD down to 4m with only 500k to first even though theirs filled like an hour before start

RIP
it filled, but who knows how much of it was actual buyins.. they were sending out emails offering to refund their buyin if they didnt cash.
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10-19-2015 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Oi!
Links to petitions? I'll sign them.

https://www.fanduel.com/takeaction
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10-19-2015 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Will sites like these be the new DFS? The format is very similar to DFS. That is interesting in itself. And with rakes of 9 or 10 percent, it seems to be a better way to bet on horses than the traditional method which has a much higher rake.


https://www.horsetourneys.com/


https://www.derbywars.com/
The tourneys have been legal and gaining popularity over the last 15-20 yrs.See the show ''Horse Players'' on Esquire channel.I don't know a thing about the fantasy format.
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10-19-2015 , 03:23 PM
StarsDraft sure lasted long. Out of all but four states.
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10-19-2015 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wazzu24
StarsDraft sure lasted long. Out of all but four states.
More info here: http://www.legalsportsreport.com/538...ates-from-dfs/

I was probably enjoying playing on StarsDraft the most. Mostly because they had solid overlays and I was a "Gold Tier" because of previous PokerStars grindage.
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10-19-2015 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wazzu24
StarsDraft sure lasted long. Out of all but four states.
Because of links to poker accounts?
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10-19-2015 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wazzu24
StarsDraft sure lasted long. Out of all but four states.
Bummer. I enjoyed playing there with their rewards program.
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10-19-2015 , 04:16 PM
Kansas reddest of the red legal.Go figure.Republicans kill poker, inadvertently spawn DFS monster.Lib/Dems hellbent to kill DFS.Oh the irony.Political hack award goes to Frank Pallone (D) congressmen from NJ. ''Congress must investigate DFS"............oh wait I voted for the UIGEA and my state declared DFS legal 2 yrs. ago,lol!
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10-19-2015 , 04:36 PM
I wish StarsDraft would've done this before my current losing streak.
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10-19-2015 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
they actually lowered the rake too but i'm guessing that was an accident
Huh? Rake is 12.66% on the MM, same as it was last week.

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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
FD down to 4m with only 500k to first even though theirs filled like an hour before start

RIP
Flatter payout structure is good. They only managed to fill last week because they offered to freeroll a ton of players on their first entry. Would have had a pretty big overlay otherwise.
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10-19-2015 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Exitonly
it filled, but who knows how much of it was actual buyins.. they were sending out emails offering to refund their buyin if they didnt cash.
For full disclosure, it was very close to full before they sent that email, and it filled ~85 minutes before lock.
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10-19-2015 , 07:02 PM
Here's the full email that went out from StarsDraft today:

"Update to List of Accepted States

Following a review of recent daily fantasy sports developments within a number of jurisdictions, we regret to inform you that StarsDraft is now limiting its operations to a select list of states. Starting today, only players physically located in Kansas, Massachusetts, Maryland and New Jersey will be able to participate in our fantasy sports contests.

Withdrawing Your Funds

As part of Amaya Inc., one of the world's largest and most regulated online gaming brands, we at StarsDraft pride ourselves on best practices with respect to compliance, security, responsible gaming and the protection of player funds. Unlike many other fantasy sports operators, Amaya ensures that all of its brands hold end users’ deposits, winnings and bonuses in trust accounts through which money is fully protected from company operating liabilities.

As such, your full balance is and will remain available for withdrawal at your earliest convenience.

To thank you for your support of the StarsDraft brand, we are making the following changes to our system to help assist players with their withdrawal requests:

1. We have removed any minimum withdraw restrictions;
2. We have removed any Bankroll Builder promotional withdraw restrictions;
3. We are converting all loyalty points into cash;
4. We are converting all open tickets and non-deposit promotion tickets into cash (this does not include Bankroll Builder or First Down deposit tickets);
5. We have removed the minimum check withdrawal restrictions.

Any winnings and subsequent tickets or loyalty points earned after tonight's NFL payouts will also be converted to cash following the above structure.

For more information on this change, please click here.

A Regulated Daily Fantasy Sports Environment

The recent incidents involving the practices of certain leading companies in DFS demonstrate that the current self-regulatory practices have fallen short.

We strongly believe that there is a real need for state regulation and licensing of DFS, and until such time, we will not be operating in any other states than the four mentioned above which already have existing and clearly defined daily fantasy sports guidance. We believe that this is the responsible approach for our company and encourage others in the industry to consider the same measures in order to ensure the future growth and viability of daily fantasy sports in the U.S.

We apologize for the abrupt change in policy, we will actively monitor ongoing developments within DFS and we look forward to working with all states interested in implementing set guidelines for the operation of daily fantasy sports in their jurisdiction."
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10-19-2015 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Two SHAE
For full disclosure, it was very close to full before they sent that email, and it filled ~85 minutes before lock.
Yup that's fair. I doubt those emails even if sent really early would make a dent. Just never know how much of the field is actual dollars going into the site. DK was giving out tickets without a deposit to all signups a couple weeks ago.
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10-19-2015 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Exitonly
Yup that's fair. I doubt those emails even if sent really early would make a dent. Just never know how much of the field is actual dollars going into the site. DK was giving out tickets without a deposit to all signups a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, I reckon they still got showered on the week 1 Mil Maker even though it didn't technically overlay for the number of tickets they must have given away. They have plenty of dead weight customers at this point, where acquisition cost > lifetime value.
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