Looks solid, don't love taking 2 Jags WRs, but would rather be weak at RB going into the season than anywhere else. If you are struggling to get by at RB then your qb depth could be quite helpful in addressing that. As stated earlier I'm relatively low on Montgomery, but everyone else itt seems to love him. Then again, everyone also seems to think Latavius Murray isn't completely washed and are drafting him even though he isn't even on a team for some reason so :shrug:

I like the start, maybe Murray over Sermon was a slight mistake, but hard to tell since it depends on if of those other qb's were keepers or not. Not a huge blunder regardless imo.

You lost me with that 7/8/9 combo of Carter/Drake/Murray though, I understand you panicked a bit at RB, and I guess you reached a bit on Carter for keeper potential, but even so I assume those picks could've been handled a lot better. Hell, Coleman isn't much different than those guys and he went 4-5 rounds later.

Thanks for the feedback. Yea and I only drafted Coleman bc I have Carter and want a warm body in the backfield. I realize Ty Johnson is in play too.

I completely agree with you on the 7-9 picks. Carter I reached for after jevontae and Sermon went earlier than expected but the wtf pick was Murray. I was on mini tilt/RB panic, beers were settling in and I had a long wait to my pick opened this thread and skimmed it and saw the Murray love without. Idk wtf I was thinking lol. Even there and for Drake I didn't have any other RB I wanted to take instead. Should have went WR but oh well. Will have to do some work on waivers but think I have the firepower to get me through the first couple weeks

Well, Tar, I took teams 1 and 3. They are different leagues. Paid $80 for Team 1 and $60 for Team 3, which covers the second year with the first year free for both. Now I need to figure out what to do with the teams. I don't really have the patience for rebuilding. In 25 years playing fantasy football, I've never been in a league where I wasn't in playoff contention going into the final week of the regular season.

Team 1
Dynasty PPR Superflex 4pt per passing TD, 1 pt per 25 passing yards, 0.25 TE premium, 1 pt bonus for 100+ receiving yards, 2 pt bonus for 200+ receiving yards.
Starting requirements: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, 3 Flex, 1 SF
This was mislabeled as only 2 WR in ad. I really don't like the 3 WR plus 3 flex given my lack of depth. Plus I fear it's going to make it really difficult to trade, and that it weakens my strength at QB. I did realize the team has Fant, who was left out in ad.

QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Tua, Winston/Hill, Heinicke
RB: Chubb, Mixon, Hines, Cohen/Damien Williams, Tony Jones, Kelley, Mack, Bell
WR: Davonta Smith, MT, Nico Collins, Parker, Hamler, AJG, Pascal, R. Higgins
TE: Fant, Cook
Picks: Team-earned R1-4 2022-24

Thoughts: If I believe in building around Lawrence and Burrow, I can go one of two ways. Try to trade Tua and my 2021 1st for some WRs or punt the season and trade Chubb and Mixon for picks and young WRs. I really like Chubb, but he will turn 26 during the season and isn't the best for PPR. I don't trust Mixon, but he could break out with Gio gone and be gold in PPR. I'd trade him if someone values him as such already, because I have my doubts.

Team 3
Dynasty PPR Superflex 4pt per passing TD, 1 pt per 25 passing yards, 0.5 TE premium
Starting requirements: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 3 Flex, 1 SF

QB: Burrow, Lance, Wentz, Carr, Mills
RB: Javonte Williams, Singletary, Michael Carter, R. Stevenson
WR: Godwin, Aiyuk, Diontae, Jeudy, Waddle, MWill, Toney, Mooney, Cephus
TE: Gesicki, Irv Smith/Herndon, Jarwin, Freiermuth
Picks: Team-earned R1-4 2022-24

Thoughts: The championship team was undefeated last year and is really good with Mahomes, Fitz, Henry, Edwards, Edmonds, Adams, Metcalf, Diggs, Woods, Waller.

Lance isn't ready, Javonte will be sharing, so it could be easier to punt this one and prepare for the future. But it will be difficult to fully do it with enough WRs putting up points. Plus I don't really know what I would trade away to build for the future other than just hope for a high pick (which probably won't end up top 3) and wait.

**** drafting from my phone drunk screwed me over. Just saw that Saquon was available. I thought it was just Chubb/Najee at rb left and that’s why I went Ridley/Nuk

A Jones/Kelce/Diggs went 9/10/11 and those were the 3 guys I wanted at the turn so I guess I panicked and missed out on saquon…whoops haha

Why don’t you like Montgomery this year? Seems due for a big workload again with Cohen not healthy

This is one I'd love to see the draft board to see who you had the choices on.

Yeah my main debate was Monty vs James Robinson in that spot and I decided to go more with the expert rankings than my own. If Fields does turn that offence around I'm really happy to have one of the few backs who can see volume at that ADP.

And I get it, Keenan is special. But I refuse to believe I can't match his score most of the season by picking and choosing when to start Julio and when to start Michael Thomas. And those ADP's were too low to pass on.

Two midstakes, half-PPR, ten team YPLs (2 RB, 2 WR, Flex). Both from the 8 spot (which might be the worst) with the same three picks and I like one of these teams waaay more. Thoughts appreciated:

Team 1
- Rd 1 - Hill (Taylor, Kelce)
- Rd 2 - Ekeler (Barkley, Gibson, Najee, Diggs)
- Rd 3 - AJ Brown (Mclaurin, Lamb)
- Rd 4 - Kittle (Arob, Kupp, Cooper)
- Rd 5 - Woods (Gaskin, Murray)
- Rd 6 - Lamar (Edmonds, Javonte)
- Rd 7 - Sermon (Dillon, Rojo)
- Rd 8 - Claypool (Anderson, JuJu)
- Rd 9 - Moss (Drake, Boyd)
- Rd 10 - Chase (Carter, Smith)
- Rd 11 - Singletary (Lindsay, Waddle)
- Rd 12 - Michel (Pollard, Mattisom)
- Rd 13 - Jones (Hardman, Landry)


Team 2
- Rd 1 - Hill (Barkley, Chubb, Kelce)
- Rd 2 - Ekeler (Taylor, Gibson, Najee)
- Rd 3 - AJ Brown (Mahomes, Lamb)
- Rd 4 - James Robinson (Kittle, Jacobs, Woods, Sanders)
- Rd 5 - Lockett (Cooper, Gaskin, Swift)
- Rd 6 - Damien Harris (Wilson, Aiyuk, Prescott)
- Rd 7 - Javonte Williams (Mostert, Jeudy, Chase$
- Rd 8 - Rodgers (Deebo, Rojo, Robby)
- Rd 9 - Fant (Conner, Michael Thomas)
- Rd 10 - Davonta Smith (Pollard, Hynes, Golladay)
- Rd 11 - Gallup (Myers, Chark)
- Rd 12 Pittman (Samuel, Miss)
- Rd 13 - White (Hardman, Mattison)

I’ll post my thoughts, but I think there is a pretty clear mistake in both drafts.

Their offensive line is a shitshow and Nagy is Gase 2.0

Should have gone Kelce in at least one, but at least you got Kittle in the 4th in the first one. I probably would have diversified away from Ekeler and AJB in the second draft, assuming you diversified away from Kelce in one of them too. Hopefully nothing happens to one of your top 3 picks, because that could ruin both leagues lol.

The 8 spot is indeed pretty terrible. Had 1.07 in a 10 man and 1.08 in a 12 man. Bleh.

He was the rb4 last year with that line and coach…

I can't believe Nagy is taking over play calling duties again. What a schmuck.



Obviously more than just play calling as they lost Cohen and made an O line move at the time, but I've faded Monty everywhere.

I do think that Damien Williams takes on some of the Cohen role until Cohen returns.

Monty also had the league's softest schedule during his 6 game run to end the season.

I was not aware of the play calling thing. That’s a valid point. Not really worried about Damien Williams, don’t think he’s anything special and hasn’t played football in two years. Don’t really get the schedule argument. JT got hot down the stretch vs bad teams and gets drafted in the first round. Would people fade him if his big games were spread out instead off all down the stretch? It helps he plays in the nfc north bc the lions, packers, and Vikings are all bad vs the run

That decision is looking good with the jags signing duke johnson and urban meyers infatuation with Hyde. Seems like jrob clearly won’t see the same volume as last year

Probably a leak, but that's another reason I faded JT, as well. I know I'm in the minority for JT lol. Plus the fact he just isn't seen as the pass catching back. At least Monty had some solid pass catching games. And that's not to say JT can't catch, because I think he has that skillset. It just sounds like Reich doesn't want to use him that way, especially since they have Hines.

I do think that division opponents doesn't get enough of a consideration when ranking guys. Monty vs the Lions, Packers and Vikings is nice. JT vs the Titans, Texans, and Jags. As opposed to like Mixon vs the Ravens, Steelers and Browns.

Beat: I have 2 Mixon and 0 JT and Monty lol.

Oh well, we will see how it goes. There are always surprises to the fantasy season!

Yeah, this is another reason I faded JRob. I just don't trust Meyer. I don't like guys with low draft capital and a small sample size of fantasy success that have a new coach, especially when the new coach drafts a RB in the first round. Not to mention a new rookie QB. Too many changes on that team for me to take JRob at ADP by the time I drafted. Good for the people that got him when he was lower before Etienne got hurt. That's well worth the risk at this point.

Rebuilding and not being in playoff contention definitely takes a lot of patience, but you can make it fun if you keep working trade negotiations until you find good ones. That's the name of the game.

I would not be trading away any future picks, especially in a rebuild, since that means you should be drafting near the top. SF 1st round picks are super valuable. Instead, I'd be trying to accumulate as many 1st and 2nd round picks as possible. The rookie draft, especially the first round, has a lot more value in a SF league as opposed to a 1QB league. Here is the first round of one of my 12 man SF leagues from earlier this year: Trevor, Fields, Lance, Chase, Zach, Najee, Pitts, Etienne, Javonte, Devonta, Mac, and Waddle.

If I were you with team 1, I'd punt the season to try to get a high draft pick, and try to add more draft picks with Chubb and Mixon. Consensus says the 2023 class is much stronger than the 2022, but I think it's a bunch of bogus to try to grade that stuff at this point of the game. But maybe you can find some people in the league who think the same way and get 2022 picks cheaper than you should.

I would say everyone except Burrow, Trevor, and Devonta are tradeable. Maybe Tua starts hot and you can ship him off, although I still do like Tua's long-term potential.

Team 3 looks good on paper, but it's definitely in that middling spot where you're not bad enough to get a top 3 draft pick but you're not good enough to win a championship. That undefeated team is pretty sick, but all it takes is a couple of injuries to derail.

If I were you, I'd try to build around Burrow, Lance, Aiyuk, Jeudy, Waddle, and maybe Mooney. I'd say everyone else can be shipped off for the right price. Maybe Javonte and Carter hit by the end of the year, and you can ship them off for some draft capital. Or maybe they both end up being really good and you actually have a competitive team to go with the QBs and WRs.

I say just embrace the rebuild and have fun with it. I bet you can get more draft picks than you expect, especially from teams who think they can win now. But it'll take some patience. I wouldn't be looking to do a ton of trades now. Just wait until injuries and byes begin.

Thanks for your thoughts. So far I've just offered Tua for Shenault, MWill and Lindsay. I thought it would give me some much-needed depth and that Shenault could be good to pair with Lawrence. He does have Etienne and two likely late firsts (his and defending champ). So I did think of offering him Chubb for Etienne and the firsts as well.

1. (9) Josh Allen (Buf - QB) -- Chubb, Adams, Barkley, A. Jones
2. (12) Travis Kelce (KC - TE) -- Barkley, A. Jones, Harris, Diggs
3. (29) David Montgomery (Chi - RB) -- CEH, Robinson, Russ
4. (32) Terry McLaurin (Was - WR) -- ARobII, AJB, Keenan, Kupp
5. (49) Amari Cooper (Dal - WR) -- Swift, Thielen, Pitts, Gus
6. (52) Matthew Stafford (LAR - QB) -- Baker, Lawrence, Ryan, Burrow
7. (69) Kareem Hunt (Cle - RB) -- Diontae, Edmonds, Claypool
8. (72) DJ Moore (Car - WR) -- Claypool, Higgins, Robby Anderson, Aiyuk
9. (89) DJ Chark Jr. (Jax - WR) -- MWilliams, Golladay, Deebo
10. (92) Justin Fields (Chi - QB) -- Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Tua
11. (109) Laviska Shenault Jr. (Jax - WR)
12. (112) Nyheim Hines (Ind - RB)
13. (129) Greg Zuerlein (Dal - K)
14. (132) San Francisco (SF - DEF)
15. (149) Deshaun Watson (Hou - QB)
16. (152) Tevin Coleman (NYJ - RB)

Here's my draft, for the first 10 rounds I listed players available at same position, and for first couple rounds I just listed what I figure were the other BPA's.

Godwin actually went quite late, 60th overall. Think everyone got scared off by the injury reports.

.5ppr 10tm - the Kelce owner wants to trade me Kelce + Fields + whoever he’d drop for Mahomes + goedert + something

I want Kelce obviously and I can scoop up Ryan or Jameis until fields starts playing (I would drop Jonnu for a qb)

My question is who is the best player you would give up as the “something” for Kelce

Roster

Qb Mahomes
Rbs CMC, Javonte, Drake, Michel, Carter, Stevenson
Wrs Adams, AJ Brown, Jeudy, Chase, Fuller
Te goedert, Jonnu

His drop is probably like Mooney or Lindsay

Who should I keep in a 10 team, .5 PPR, valuing the whole season:

N. Fant
Terrace Marshall


At the moment, both are deep on the bench and wouldn't appear until byes. Does the potential of Fant turning into a top TE I can potentially trade outweigh whatever upside that Marshall has?

I don't care much for Goedert with Ertz around, so I like this deal for you.

I'd try and throw in Fuller. I think you need the RB depth, although Fuller currently is probably better value-wise than your lower-end RBs. Maybe that gets the deal done, and if you can secure Mooney, even better.

Lemme know if you like the idea.

How high do we value Etienne and dobbins as keepers for $1 next year and $4 the following year ($250 budget)?

10 team, PPR, 1qb/2rb/2wr/1QBflex/2flex/0TE

You can keep as many players as you want for whatever you drafted them for the previous year, but you can only keep one player for his 2nd year as a keeper. Example: One guy drafted both etienne & dobbins for $1 each so he can keep both next year for $1, but the following year he could only keep one of them and the price would be $4.

my team:
cousins, ryan, winston, big ben, watson
chubb, mixon, gaskins, mike davis, henderson, edmonds, darrel williams (kc)
arob, godwin, kupp, brandin cooks, MVS

Villains team:
allen, stafford, jimmyG
cmac, saquon, ronald jones
mike evans, juju, corey davis, devonta smith, marquise brown, michael thomas, hardman, emmanuel sanders,
hockenson (no TE slot, but he can play in flex)

I was thinking about offering big ben for either of them, but with 2 IR spots dobbins and etienne for that cheap may be worth way more than what I'm thinking.

Working on my first deal in dynasty SF league, but where start 3 WRs and 3 flex so QBs aren't worth as much over WRs as in typical SF I would think.

For Tua, he says he will either give me Pittman, 2022 mid-to-late 1st and two 2022 mid-to-late 3rds or Deebo and same first with a late 2nd. I'm thinking it's a good deal for me and lean Pittman, because I think he has the potential to be a fantasy WR1 while I think Deebo tops out at WR2.