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Poker Snowie PF - On button with suited connectors facing CO open Poker Snowie PF - On button with suited connectors facing CO open

04-03-2018 , 03:27 AM
.10 .20 cash 6 players
Sacks: CO $31.90, Button (Hero) $28.85, SB 25.95, BB $53.85
PF: folds to CO who raises to .50
Hero has 87s on Button and snowie says to 3B pot ($1.80)!

I would normally call since I’m in position with a suited connector wanting to keep the pot small on a drawing hand. A call is minus .24 EV while a raise is plus .04 EV.

I just ran the same scenario but the CO raising pot (.70) instead of (.50) and this time Snowie recommends a fold 95% of the time (0 EV) and a raise 4% (0 EV). It says that a call is (-.36 EV).

What is interesting to me is that a call "trying to keep the pot small" in position with deep stacks is minus EV in both situations. Do you agree with Snowie?
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04-03-2018 , 07:37 AM
Take a look at what range the BB/SB squeeze once btn flat calls a co open. Snowie squeezes a lot.
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04-04-2018 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by max1234
Do you agree with Snowie?
Against soft opposition that won't squeeze out of the blinds very often - and will pay you off if you make a straight/flush with your suited connectors - calling pre with "implied odds" should be profitable. Against tougher opposition, suited connectors do better as 3-bets.
Snowie cold-calls pre-flop much less often than most low stakes players. In tough games, you don't make money by calling pre and trying to make monster hands. You make a larger proportion of your profit by making people fold.
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04-04-2018 , 02:17 PM
I don't have snowie anymore, but pretty sure if btn calls after co opens snowie squeezes in bb with all AXs, JTs+, 88+ and some other suited broadways. If you're getting sqzed this often, pry can't do too much calling.
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04-04-2018 , 08:10 PM
Brokenstars and ArtyMcFly,

Thanks for your explanation, it makes a lot of sense to me. I didn't think about a wide squeeze range from the blinds.
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04-05-2018 , 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I don't have snowie anymore, but pretty sure if btn calls after co opens snowie squeezes in bb with all AXs, JTs+, 88+ and some other suited broadways. If you're getting sqzed this often, pry can't do too much calling.
It depends a lot on the open sizing, and Snowie seems to have generally reduced its overall squeezing % since the last time I studied it. (It's gone down to about 9%). It doesn't squeeze all that much in the BB if CO opens for 2.25x, for example. It now likes flatting Axs vs the small size, presumably for the cheap but super-profitable over-flushing opportunity.

One point I forgot to mention when talking about squeezes is that even just getting overcalled by the BB can be bad, since not only are you in a 3-way pot (which means you're less likely to win than when heads up), but on the button you have the best absolute position, but the worst relative position; acting after the likely c-bettor, but before a potential check-raiser. (In effect, you're vulnerable to post-flop squeezes as well as pre-flop). Outside of really soft games, you'd generally prefer to get heads up pre-flop with most hands, and 3-betting to force the blinds out is a good way to achieve that.
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