Thanks for the good replies
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Originally Posted by Bob148
the result is that I consistently face a river bet that is value heavy.
This is a good point.
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
Well you cant start folding 100% of rivers, obviously.
I was just trying to indicate that my strategy is so far from optimal that folding 100% of rivers would net me an additional 1bb/100
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
For starters, position matters. Let’s assume oop for discussion.
I agree with the point you made and it's something I will chew on and consider. But combing through the DB it seems like the vast majority of these calls are IP. Mostly bc I try to avoid playing oop as often as possible.
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
If you are losing money with calls in position, then this is just stationing and overcalling. Filter for these and figure out what is worth a call and what is not.
-Rob
Didn't read the last part until I replied above but this is pretty much spot on.
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
There's an error in reasoning here: you have more than one alternative to flatting
Good point. Noted.
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
Also it's possible you can fix it prior to the river - it's possible you're getting to the river too often with hands that aren't good enough to raise but that you don't want to fold.
I think this another good point, but with the way I have constructed my ranges. It seems like this is almost exclusively a river problem.
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
I don't really use HEM - is the stat saying your win rate *overall* is impacted -1bb/100 by your river flatting?
My overall winrate is impacted by about 1-1.5 BB. I am -352 bb/100 on river calling.
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
How do you come to that conclusion? Every time you fold, you lose the hand, along with any money you put into the pot.
The stat I am looking at only takes into account river decisions. It's just saying that the sum total of times I call on the river is negative while folding every hand would just be 0. The money I lose from a river fold is already accounted for with the other HEM stats, to the best of my knowledge.
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
If you want further advice on river play, a useful HEM stat is "river call efficiency".
Thanks, looking into this now as we speak.
Last edited by CodythePATRIOT; 07-06-2018 at 02:05 PM.