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will this simplification lose very much EV will this simplification lose very much EV

02-17-2021 , 06:08 AM
Just started do a sim for UTG RFi UTG+1 3 bets and UTG calls

Flop AKq rainbow. The first part is pretty simple as UTG checks 100 percent and UTg+1 range bets 25% of pot. so anyway getting to my question if both cards in our hand block BDFDS IE we have TcTs on a AKQ that includes a club and a spade the sim might fold say 34% if we block the ace and king draws but fold 0 percent if we block the king and Q draws. then fold 24 if we block Ace and queen. is it ok to average it out and just fold 19% of the time.

If not how can spots like this be simplified? ive searched youtube for vids on simplifying gto but cant really find anything
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02-17-2021 , 07:40 AM
Trying to memorize exact postflop frequencies is a fools task. Firstly, it's impossible to memorize, secondly, the exact mixture is extremely sensitive to your inputs.

Just focus on the lines of indifference. This hand class is indifferent between calling and folding, that hand class is indifferent between raising for value and calling.

If you really want to measure the EV loss of a simplification, all you have to do is run a node-locked sim and see how much EV you lose.

Last edited by tombos21; 02-17-2021 at 07:58 AM.
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02-17-2021 , 06:17 PM
Well I don't necessarily try to remember exact frequencies I try to ball park it
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02-18-2021 , 08:11 AM
so as not to start a new thread. continuing with the same sim. If the turn gives oop a small set and ip bets the solver is raising pot 100% of the time . However its check calling all the way with a set of Qs.

The small sets don't really interact with the board at all from what i can see they don't block anything. They don't block much of any thing in IPs range either as IP shouldnt have any small cards in their range. So as far as i can see OOP having a small pocket pair has a blocing score of close to 0. Having pocket Qs block a chunk of IPs calling range. Like their own set of Qs or KQ or AQ. So is that why the solver wants to pure call all streets with a set of Qs they block to much of IP calling range to bet but are happy to call off. Where as small sets dont block any of IPs calling range.
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