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What should be my SB 3-bet bluffing range vs a CO/BTN wide opening range? What should be my SB 3-bet bluffing range vs a CO/BTN wide opening range?

04-07-2017 , 06:15 AM
I know that I should have linear 3-betting range vs villains who doesn't fold to a 3bet a lot, a wide linear 3-bet range vs fish who plays a lot of hands, and a polar 3-betting range vs those who fold a lot to 3bet.

So my question is, what hands in your polar 3-betting range do you want to 3-bet bluff in SB (because it's too weak to call but too good to fold) vs a wide CO/BTN open?
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04-07-2017 , 07:14 AM
Who is in the big blind? What's the opening size?

If unknown, and vs a 3x, then I'm going to assume the big blind is bad at poker and I'll 3 bet pot with this range vs an assumed 50%+ steal:

33+, A2s+, A5o, A4o, ATo+, K9s+, KJo+, QJs, JTs.

Vs 2x, I'm slightly wider. Vs 4x, I'm slightly tighter.

If the big blind is tight, I'll add a lot of hands. If the big blind is loose, I'll take out some hands.
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04-07-2017 , 07:40 AM
Oh I forgot to write who's in the big blind. The type of BB in my mind when I posted this is an aggro BB who has a 3bet of like 9-10+% who is likely to squeeze when I just flat in SB.
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04-07-2017 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by reefwalkcuts
I know that I should have linear 3-betting range vs villains who doesn't fold to a 3bet a lot, a wide linear 3-bet range vs fish who plays a lot of hands, and a polar 3-betting range vs those who fold a lot to 3bet.

So my question is, what hands in your polar 3-betting range do you want to 3-bet bluff in SB (because it's too weak to call but too good to fold) vs a wide CO/BTN open?
Most people just 3bet a linear 15-20% range from the SB vs a CO/BTN RFI. You could mix in an array of flats vs smaller sizings, but 2.5x and up I don't really see that much of a merit unless the BB is atrocious.
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04-07-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by StraightFlooosh
Most people just 3bet a linear 15-20% range from the SB vs a CO/BTN RFI. You could mix in an array of flats vs smaller sizings, but 2.5x and up I don't really see that much of a merit unless the BB is atrocious.
I see. So unless the BB is atrocious as you said, we should have no calling range in SB and just 3bet for value?

edit: I just repeated what you said, but I get what you mean LoL
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04-07-2017 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by StraightFlooosh
Most people just 3bet a linear 15-20% range from the SB vs a CO/BTN RFI. You could mix in an array of flats vs smaller sizings, but 2.5x and up I don't really see that much of a merit unless the BB is atrocious.
Also, aside from bb being weak, we can also flat some hands if bb is unlikely to squeeze us i.e. low 3bet%?
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04-07-2017 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by reefwalkcuts
I see. So unless the BB is atrocious as you said, we should have no calling range in SB and just 3bet for value?

edit: I just repeated what you said, but I get what you mean LoL
Idk if 3betting T9s is for value or a bluff, but its in my range. I don't really look at preflop as value and bluff, although I understand the sentiment.
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04-07-2017 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by StraightFlooosh
Idk if 3betting T9s is for value or a bluff, but its in my range. I don't really look at preflop as value and bluff, although I understand the sentiment.
If you don't mind, what is your default linear 3-bet range in SB vs a standard CO/BTN open?
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04-08-2017 , 06:12 PM
14-20% vs btn

Less vs co
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04-09-2017 , 01:37 PM
@OP also it depends on villain such as their calling ranges vs. a 3!, 4-bet ranges, PFR, etc... but you prolly know that.

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Does anyone know where i can find flatting range hand charts say villain opens in EP and im in EP, MP, LP, blinds etc...
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04-09-2017 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by reefwalkcuts
If you don't mind, what is your default linear 3-bet range in SB vs a standard CO/BTN open?
Vs BTN, my SB 3-betting range looks very similar to my 6-max UTG opening range. Vs CO, it's a bit tighter than that.
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04-10-2017 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by reefwalkcuts
If you don't mind, what is your default linear 3-bet range in SB vs a standard CO/BTN open?
13% vs CO and 19% vs BTN is my default.
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