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02-07-2020 , 09:31 AM
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02-10-2020 , 05:00 AM
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02-10-2020 , 05:32 PM
There hes been new update but now it seems it goes slower!
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02-10-2020 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by disident
There hes been new update but now it seems it goes slower!
Does it update automatically every time you start the program or you have to do it manually?
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02-11-2020 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
Does it update automatically every time you start the program or you have to do it manually?
It updated when I started a program yesterday but training mode now is slow as f...
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02-11-2020 , 11:08 AM
I've started using Snowie more deeply and I would like to know what you guys have to say on some doubts that I have.

My plan now is to follow Snowie ranges faithfully for some months.
And that's because I want to understand how it "thinks".

For example... That's useless to use a different preflop range than Snowie does, and than study scenarios postflop trying to apply it's recommendations, because the range that we get postflop would be other and the balancing/sizes/frequencies would never be the same, including getting to be completely other.

So I'll be doing that in a way that I can understand how Snowie construct all street ranges, taking in consideration blockers, frequencies, polarization, etc.
By doing that I hope I can be a better player when thinking by myself and understanding the game theory.

I'm playing 6max NL25 on Pokerstars, but my objective is to start playing NL50 soon, but preflop ranges change completely between both stakes because of rake.
NL25 Snowie is opening 1.0psb from all positions (except MP) and NL50 snowie opens 0.25psb (UTG), 0.5psb (MP, CO, BTN) and 1.0psb from the SB.

There is where I have my questions:

1) Can we assume that the rake considered by Snowie is the same on Pokerstars?
2) Should I use the 1.0psb strategy to get max value on NL25 or should I use the 0.5psb strategy that's a more general one and the one that I'll be using when going up through the stakes? For learning purposes and time optimization when studying scenarios postflop?
3) Does the EV of both line (1.0psb and 0.5psb) is that different on NL25? How much EV I would be losing by not applying the better size for each stake/rake?

Thanks in advance!
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02-11-2020 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by vini.barbosa
I've started using Snowie more deeply and I would like to know what you guys have to say on some doubts that I have.

My plan now is to follow Snowie ranges faithfully for some months.
And that's because I want to understand how it "thinks".

For example... That's useless to use a different preflop range than Snowie does, and than study scenarios postflop trying to apply it's recommendations, because the range that we get postflop would be other and the balancing/sizes/frequencies would never be the same, including getting to be completely other.

So I'll be doing that in a way that I can understand how Snowie construct all street ranges, taking in consideration blockers, frequencies, polarization, etc.
By doing that I hope I can be a better player when thinking by myself and understanding the game theory.

I'm playing 6max NL25 on Pokerstars, but my objective is to start playing NL50 soon, but preflop ranges change completely between both stakes because of rake.
NL25 Snowie is opening 1.0psb from all positions (except MP) and NL50 snowie opens 0.25psb (UTG), 0.5psb (MP, CO, BTN) and 1.0psb from the SB.

There is where I have my questions:

1) Can we assume that the rake considered by Snowie is the same on Pokerstars?
2) Should I use the 1.0psb strategy to get max value on NL25 or should I use the 0.5psb strategy that's a more general one and the one that I'll be using when going up through the stakes? For learning purposes and time optimization when studying scenarios postflop?
3) Does the EV of both line (1.0psb and 0.5psb) is that different on NL25? How much EV I would be losing by not applying the better size for each stake/rake?

Thanks in advance!
1) Yes, it's the same.
2) In order to simplify, I'd recommend to you open 0.5 pot (2.25 bb) from UTG-BTN and pot (3bb) from SB.
3) Not so much. Don't overthink the preflop sizings. Just pick one (2.25 bb, in my opinion) and use it. When you'll study, just create a scenario and use the same open bet sizing to start your analyze and to understand the streets.
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02-11-2020 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vini.barbosa
I've started using Snowie more deeply and I would like to know what you guys have to say on some doubts that I have.

My plan now is to follow Snowie ranges faithfully for some months.
And that's because I want to understand how it "thinks".

For example... That's useless to use a different preflop range than Snowie does, and than study scenarios postflop trying to apply it's recommendations, because the range that we get postflop would be other and the balancing/sizes/frequencies would never be the same, including getting to be completely other.

So I'll be doing that in a way that I can understand how Snowie construct all street ranges, taking in consideration blockers, frequencies, polarization, etc.
By doing that I hope I can be a better player when thinking by myself and understanding the game theory.

I'm playing 6max NL25 on Pokerstars, but my objective is to start playing NL50 soon, but preflop ranges change completely between both stakes because of rake.
NL25 Snowie is opening 1.0psb from all positions (except MP) and NL50 snowie opens 0.25psb (UTG), 0.5psb (MP, CO, BTN) and 1.0psb from the SB.

There is where I have my questions:

1) Can we assume that the rake considered by Snowie is the same on Pokerstars?
2) Should I use the 1.0psb strategy to get max value on NL25 or should I use the 0.5psb strategy that's a more general one and the one that I'll be using when going up through the stakes? For learning purposes and time optimization when studying scenarios postflop?
3) Does the EV of both line (1.0psb and 0.5psb) is that different on NL25? How much EV I would be losing by not applying the better size for each stake/rake?

Thanks in advance!
1.)They said it strategy is based on Stars rake structure
2.)U need to end the action preflop when rake is high(no flop no drop),that's why pot size us used.
3.)You need to beat the rake more often when using smaller size because u will get called more often.
Also there is option to use and see how Snowie would play combos that r not in it's ranges.
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02-11-2020 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by disident
1.)They said it strategy is based on Stars rake structure
2.)U need to end the action preflop when rake is high(no flop no drop),that's why pot size us used.
3.)You need to beat the rake more often when using smaller size because u will get called more often.
Also there is option to use and see how Snowie would play combos that r not in it's ranges.
I would stick with 0.5 pot opening and 1 from SB. I play 50 Blitz and consistently( played for at least an hour every day before sessions for a month and then reviewed errors )playing Snowie 0.5/0.25 at World Class level improved my game( of course adjust your game based on HUD stats against known players).
I know that lots of people are sceptical about Snowie not being real GTO but it helped me.
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02-12-2020 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
I would stick with 0.5 pot opening and 1 from SB. I play 50 Blitz and consistently( played for at least an hour every day before sessions for a month and then reviewed errors )playing Snowie 0.5/0.25 at World Class level improved my game( of course adjust your game based on HUD stats against known players).
I know that lots of people are sceptical about Snowie not being real GTO but it helped me.
Well,as Snowie predicts,preflop EV gained or lost will be super small whatever bet size and ranges u use (ofc. don't go crazy wide or tight).And the thing about not being GTO ,well having enormous database and adjusting to it eventually will come close to GTO.I do believe is better to learn for us humans with neural network than solvers algorithms.
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02-12-2020 , 09:43 AM
Another question:

Just noticed that when we are on the SB facing a MP OR, we are calling with 77 vs a 3.0bb raise, but not vs a 2.5bb raise.
(We are not even 3betting it).

Imo it makes no sense, because vs a smaller raise we could defend wider.

Anyone knows why this happens?
I'm not sure if it happens more on other position/spot, but probably.
Would be nice to understand why.
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02-12-2020 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by vini.barbosa
Another question:

Just noticed that when we are on the SB facing a MP OR, we are calling with 77 vs a 3.0bb raise, but not vs a 2.5bb raise.
(We are not even 3betting it).

Imo it makes no sense, because vs a smaller raise we could defend wider.

Anyone knows why this happens?
I'm not sure if it happens more on other position/spot, but probably.
Would be nice to understand why.
It's hard to explain why snowie does some things because it doesn't think or follow a logic. It just play hands that have +EV and fold hands that don't.

In that case, maybe he can collect EV by calling with 77 vs a 3.00bb raise because the agressor will have a tighter/stronger range -> pay off more when snowie hits a set? It's hard to tell, but it’s interesting to see how much we can learn from the program and understand how many conclusions we had were wrong.
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02-12-2020 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by disident
Well,as Snowie predicts,preflop EV gained or lost will be super small whatever bet size and ranges u use (ofc. don't go crazy wide or tight).And the thing about not being GTO ,well having enormous database and adjusting to it eventually will come close to GTO.I do believe is better to learn for us humans with neural network than solvers algorithms.
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Originally Posted by stumbras
I would stick with 0.5 pot opening and 1 from SB. I play 50 Blitz and consistently( played for at least an hour every day before sessions for a month and then reviewed errors )playing Snowie 0.5/0.25 at World Class level improved my game( of course adjust your game based on HUD stats against known players).
I know that lots of people are sceptical about Snowie not being real GTO but it helped me.
I believe some people understand snowie wrong. I mean, okay, snowie is not a real GTO. The program does not do the calculations that a solver does. All right...

However, by playing against itself an insane amount of times, the results found, in my opinion, are much more solid and closer to game theory than people believe. It's not real GTO, but definitely is something around it - which is pretty good! I love it and use it a lot.

Besides that, people in these foruns usually speak more badly about snowie than some renowned professional players do. I recently asked some professional players about the program, including "mynameiskarl", and the responses were very positive. It's not as good as a good solver, but it's a great program overall.

I think the "problem" is that people play against snowie few hands (usually less than 10k or 20k hands) and begin to criticize the program for seeing that it does not make the moves that they think are the right one.
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02-12-2020 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Giovanni Dcs
I believe some people understand snowie wrong. I mean, okay, snowie is not a real GTO. The program does not do the calculations that a solver does. All right...

However, by playing against itself an insane amount of times, the results found, in my opinion, are much more solid and closer to game theory than people believe. It's not real GTO, but definitely is something around it - which is pretty good! I love it and use it a lot.

Besides that, people in these foruns usually speak more badly about snowie than some renowned professional players do. I recently asked some professional players about the program, including "mynameiskarl", and the responses were very positive. It's not as good as a good solver, but it's a great program overall.

I think the "problem" is that people play against snowie few hands (usually less than 10k or 20k hands) and begin to criticize the program for seeing that it does not make the moves that they think are the right one.
+1.

And about the 77 question... Yes, make sense. Thank you!
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03-07-2020 , 01:51 AM
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Would it be possible to make a hand converter tool to enable pokersnowie to upload pokerstars tournament hand histories ?
Since it can do scenarios and challenges with antes now , would it be able to analyse a tournament HH if it was made to look like a cash HH ? i.e if blinds are 800/1600/100 then a 40k stack is converted to a $2500 stack in a $50/100/12.5 cash game (high stakes so rake is not a factor)
Is it able to analyze tournament hands?
Should I just get Holdem resources for that?
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03-10-2020 , 03:46 PM
I don't understand this:

PokerSnowie is suggesting check, yet it compares it to 2x pot for some reason. Betting 0.25 pot has higher EV than checking. So why this suggestion?

If this matters, I'm in the bb and the action was raise - call pf, check - check on the flop.
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03-10-2020 , 04:45 PM
It thinks that 2x pot is the best (maximum EV) size for the range that it bets (Snowie uses one bet-size for its entire strategy), but learned from experience that that particular combo has a higher EV, in a vacuum, with the small size.
I wouldn't worry about small errors like that, as your opponents are unlikely to realize that your range is unbalanced/exploitable at certain bet-sizes.
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03-11-2020 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
It thinks that 2x pot is the best (maximum EV) size for the range that it bets (Snowie uses one bet-size for its entire strategy), but learned from experience that that particular combo has a higher EV, in a vacuum, with the small size.
I wouldn't worry about small errors like that, as your opponents are unlikely to realize that your range is unbalanced/exploitable at certain bet-sizes.
Correct.If u bet a combo not a range u become predictable. In this spot,protection bet of 0.25 pot will produce higher EV but there is still one betting street left .U must think as if u have already been there(river showdown).
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03-11-2020 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Trias
I don't understand this:

PokerSnowie is suggesting check, yet it compares it to 2x pot for some reason. Betting 0.25 pot has higher EV than checking. So why this suggestion?
Hey, mate.

This is a frequent confusion that many players have about snowie:

Snowie does not necessarily suggest that you make the decision that has the highest EV for your specific hand you have. Based on his training, Snowie suggests the better decision for its whole range (while keeping the balance of the move he's making).

Note: every situation you're in, snowie choose only one bet sizing to play all his range. So, in that situation, snowie plays all his range with a 2POT bet or check, because the training he did led him to conclude that this would be the best bet sizing for his entire range in this situation (and with the specific cards you have, we should check). That's why we can also learn a little bit about exploite strategy using snowie, because you can study how specific cards can use specific bet sizings in order to collect more EV (but when you do that, theoretically speaking, you will become more likely to be exploited).

Best regards.
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03-11-2020 , 01:06 PM
Has anyone tried the app free trial?
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03-11-2020 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin1234
Has anyone tried the app free trial?
I have the app. Do you have any question?
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03-11-2020 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Giovanni Dcs
I have the app. Do you have any question?
What are the differences between the app and other versions?
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03-12-2020 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Erin1234
What are the differences between the app and other versions?
They're not similar. The app only has the challenge thing, and even there it's just a simple version. It's 5-hand (not 6max) and you don't have the option to see only blunders (the app shows every error you make, even the very small ones), etc. It's a very simple version.
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03-12-2020 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Erin1234
What are the differences between the app and other versions?
You also have some pre-built ranges that you can use on another app.
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03-20-2020 , 11:01 PM


can someone please explain how / why this is a fold?

i get snowie suggests best action for range but still seems super tight
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