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09-30-2010 , 08:49 AM
Okej, we limp on small blind alot with Q-Axs, small PP, SC, and maybe connected cards, one gappers etc if there already been some other limpers in the pot.
But when do we limp when maybe there is only one other limper and folded to us? We do it more in ante games?
And do we ever limp on SB when it's folded to us, i saw Phil Ivey do this once, before i saw him doing this i thought this was a big no no.
Discuss all aspects of limping on the SB.

I wan't to discuss limping in general, limping in different positions against different opponents.
Spare the, "be the aggressor", we know that, but there is times to limp also, i wan't to have all weapons in my arsenal.
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09-30-2010 , 04:19 PM
For tournament play I know that limping the Small Blind can be the nuts you just have to know who to limp into. There are plenty of aggressive tournament players that just can't help themselves into raising or shoving you off your limp in the high blind/ante structures. The key is to recognize that the person to your left is very aggressive before limping anything.

Then next time you have A3o you can get sick value out of it when BB shoves any two cards
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Limping is also good for awkward stack sizes in tournaments, where by raising you are committing too many of your chips out of position.
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10-02-2010 , 02:31 AM
Yep. Limping in the small blind is almost always bad. Unless of course it isnt. After you get to a certain point in your game, you will find the perfect spot for it, and it sure as heck isnt bad at that spot. But it really is bad almost always still.

I think one of the most interesting aspects of it is heads up when it folds to the small blind. If the small blind completes, which he shouldnt almost ever, then the big blind is getting infinite odds to see the flop. He gets the option to just check and see a free flop and play in position against a guy who probably doesnt have a great hand. So generally thats why its a huge mistake to limp the small into the big. The usual response is go ahead and raise any two cards from the big to exploit the small blind who shouldn't have completed. Unless of course, he is the type of player who knows he should never complete the sb like that. Then we should really check and see our flop for free.

Another example of this is ace high flops out of position. When we check to the preflop raiser, he should be cbetting almost always. If he checks, we can then fire the turn to steal almost always. Unless hes the type of guy who knows he should always be cbetting, cause then if he checks the ace high, he actually has aces or ace king. a lot.

4Card

Last edited by 4CardStraight; 10-02-2010 at 02:36 AM.
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10-04-2010 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 4CardStraight
I think one of the most interesting aspects of it is heads up when it folds to the small blind. If the small blind completes, which he shouldnt almost ever, then the big blind is getting infinite odds to see the flop. He gets the option to just check and see a free flop and play in position against a guy who probably doesnt have a great hand.
Ah, but the SB is also getting a great price to call and see the flop, which we assume the BB will always let us do since he's weak and passive and not interested in defending. Our ATC hand can easily outdraw him, and we win a small pot, plus we can rep anything on the flop and just bet to take it down. We are given more credit with our postflop steals than preflop.
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