Ok so i'm sitting in class bored so i conceive a scenario in which i'm up against an opponent where balance is going to matter and we're 300 deep. folds around to us and he opens in the SB and i call. Ranges are pretty ****** wide right?

flop is 986ssd. He cbets. I know exactly what range of hands he will continue to a raise with.

If I always pot raise it - seems reasonable as most of my value hands will want to protect here, "theoretically" he needs 2-1 or 33% against my range to call. Since he's OOP deep though, I think in reality he definitely needs much much more. I'm looking for a range of %s that he needs in order to continue. Intuitively I'd like to say around 45% if we're both at the same skill level but that # could be very off.

In addition I'd like to know what kind of bluff hands you guys would include in this spot to raise his equity vs our range- something like A5 with backdoor diamonds? A7 with diamonds? etc. I think us having small bluffs here is important so when we raise he can't just be like *** that and pitch JJ or something

Your post is too generic. There are the hugely important factors like his tendencies, does he like to call down. Can he hero call us? Is he going to try and playback too much vs us. What's the dynamic at the time. How does he view you. Is he likely to think you are FOS and so bluffing even when deep going massively down in value.

Since this is a hypothetical scenario in the Poker Theory board, I don't think it's particularly useful to get specific with opponent, table image, etc.

Having said that, I think a pot sized raise is almost always an acceptable play. However, that decision will reverberate through every other decision made at that table. Call it the butterfly effect or something else, but the play your proposing can't become automatic (meaning without any thought behind it) or your going to lose value.


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Your 33% number is not correct. That is the equity he needs if your raise put him all in. Its alot more complicated when you are this deep. You are kind of looking at it like the hand ends after the flop, when you need to consider the ranges of the turn and river.

I know 33% isn't the equity he needs to continue- I mention in the OP that these are just the odds that a pot sized raise gives him. I was asking what you guys thought the # was. I'm thinking ~45%? assuming we're equally skilled postflop

I don't think this question is really solvable without a ton more information. What does villain think your raising range is on the flop? You're never going to get cookie cut ranges down for playing this deep, especially since the example you've given is blind vs blind which usually means pretty wide ranges. This is why computers are not beating humans at NLHE yet.

The smaller the effective stack sizes, the easier this gets.

45-50% if you're ivey. if you're both normal persons off the bat I'd say it's between 30-40% depending on how nitty you are. your raise is too big tho

what size would you recommend?

my rationale for potting it is that he's going to have many hands with equity/won't fold so i'd like to raise bigger for value -> i have to raise the same size with my bluffs. also we're deep so raising bigger lets me get stacks in by da river

with this sizing though I can't understand how <33% could ever be the right equity, that's pretty much implying that when you raise this flop IP, he's going to be making more money then you OOP without initiative 300 deep

If you raise someone 100% of the time, in some situation, why would you assume that their range is going to be wide when they provoke you to raise?

sorry, OP is kind of misleading. I meant, if whenever I decide to raise, I will always potraise it