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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
It's a good post but OP asked for equity (a probability), not EV. Perhaps EV is what he really wanted.
Yes, I guess I started musing on how to find the value of position by trying a bit of a thought experiment.
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Originally Posted by Whittey Houston
How much would playing out of position be worth in terms of absolute equity?
Is there any way to calculate this at all lol? Would be damn useful I think
Is 'absolute equity' meant to be value you gain from being in position here?
So for another dodgy thought experiment...
For the raise/3bet/4bet ... etc there wouldn't be enough data in the average db but using cardrunnersEv you could perhaps find out how much position is worth by doing 2 trees.
In tree 1, hero raises, 3 bet by Btn .. Hero ...
In tree 2, early player limps, hero raises, 3 bet by BB, limper folds, Hero ...
The extra limper fold is to take out the effect of the dead BB in the hand. I couldn't think of a way of getting roughly the same game in with the Hero in position and then out of position.
Find the mean ev of these two trees and then compare the value of 1 to 2 to this mean. It's complex but it should return a value for how much the position is worth in these cases.
Ok, now I've done a bit more thinking
and using this approach it wouldn't be much use as the Hero in position has much more flexibility in adjusting the pot size (a lot of the position benefit) but there will be too many choices in trying to simulate this and the Villain's choices to get a sensible result. I'll keep on musing ... perhaps it is possible to use the cardrunners 'solver' to fill in values and a result ... or perhaps snowie.. ah, I think I'm losing the plot.