Same here, just trying to figure out how to go about it


Actually when I put villain on a range on the flop for example it helps me to break it down to combos to see what is more/less likely but what Im really trying to do (and why I opened this thread) is to understand better how I can calculate my equity vs villains range.

Just use pokerstove. Very easy to calculate your equity vs a range.

I want to be able to do it at the tables, or at least know and understand how to do it so I can get close to it at the tables.

U seem to have cracked it now?

U mean... A bot that tells you what to do every hand?

This math is wrong because it is assuming that we lose our $75 call even when we win the pot. If you want to do it this way, then:

-Against AA - We win about 20% of the time. When we call the pot is $275, so we get back $55 from the pot. We had to call $75. So it is a $20 loss.
-Against KK - Same as against AA.
-Against JJ - We win about 80% of the time. When we call the pot is $275, so we get back $220 from the pot. We had to call $75. So it is a $145 profit.
-Against AK - We win about 55% of the time. When we call the pot is $275, so we get back $151.25 from the pot. We had to call $75. So it is a $76.25 profit.

-20 - 20 + 145 + 76.25*3 (presumably because AK is more likely than the other hands, but it is less than 3x) = 333.75.

333.75/6 = 55.63

$55.63 profit.



Now, let us see how close that is:

Rather than doing each hand in the villain's range individually with an estimated equity and then applying multipliers to certain hands based on the number of combinations of each hand relative to one another, I would just put the range into an equity calculator and see what the actual equity vs. the range is (I'll also note that it is weird that villain can have JJ,KK,AA, but not QQ). The following equity numbers is the output from Equilab:

........Equity........Win.............Tie
MP2...47.29%......47.07%.......0.22%......... QQ
MP3...52.71%......52.49%.......0.22%......... KK+, JJ, AKs, AKo


So our equity is 47.29%. If we call, the pot will be $275, so we get back $131.94 from the pot. We had to call $75. 131.94 - 75 = 56.94

So $56.94 profit.



So, pretty close. Probably easier to do it the second way though.

This is because the math was wrong as I explained in my post immediately above this one. The way he did the math, it had us losing our $75 call even when we won the pot.

Here is how this should look:

Our equity is 20%. When we call, the pot is $375, so we get back $75 from the pot. We had to call $75. 75 - 75 = 0

Breakeven.

You figured it out.

Learning how to actually calculate equities by hand with the idea of then doing it while playing hands at the table will basically be impossible.

You won't be able to do that math at the table in a few seconds. It would be a long math problem. Even with tight ranges it would probably take you at least several minutes to do the math even while using a calculator and a pencil and paper.

It would be much easier to play around with Pokerstove or Equilab or whatever off the table find equities in different situations with different hands vs. different ranges and remember approximations and then estimate at the table.

Cheers Lego, but I actually meant that the pot is 200 after our call. Both players starting with 100 stacks.

Oh, ok. Well, then the math was correct. The phrasing was weird though. I think most people will interpret "we have to call 75 to win 200" to mean that at this moment the pot is 200 and we're facing a 75 bet (or to state another way, that the "to win" amount does not include our call) just as I and Dude-Bun interpreted it.

Sound I will take that on board. Cheers.