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05-07-2011 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SixesUp
Really? I just learned something. I'll have to check it out.

Seems like a cumbersome, non-intuitive location.

Thanks.
Instead of consistently trolling in this forum, your suggestions on what you might improve are welcome. I've warned you twice over PM about posts you've made that I've deleted, and other 2+2 moderators are aware of your actions in this forum as well.

I'm not trying to discourage you from posting if you have content to add, but please read the rules of this support forum if you're going to continue to make posts here.

Thanks,
RPM Seth
05-07-2011 , 10:28 PM
And I have sent a lengthy list of about 18-20 suggestions a few pages back. I can link to them if you need them.

I really dont see much point in a boat load of suggestions which lead to no action, but if that's what youo want us to do, I guess we can.

Here you go.... have at it.

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Originally Posted by SixesUp
As a PokerStars refugee, I’ve been on RPM for about a week now. I have become more accustomed to the software but I still feel it makes me “tired” faster than PS.

As a “GUI specialist” at a large, commercial scientific software company I have a significant list of items I think would help this software tremendously. I have skimmed over this thread and some of these I am sure have been mentioned and some I am sure have not.

I am going to post my entire running list that I have currently. It may be a little long, if you think so, don’t read it.
  1. The entire “avatar” (name/stack/action” is too large for the table. It is particularly too wide. It makes the table feel cluttered. The font used is awful, especially upon resizing. In general it is hard on the brain. Think Pokerstars….perfect avatar icons.
  2. The action indication ( a solid white surround) is functionally lacking. At times, there is no evidence at all that the client is not frozen.
  3. The dealer button is too small. It shouldn’t be an effort to locate anyone’s position relative to the button.
  4. When a hand is concluded, especially when someone is eliminated in a tournament, the action is significantly too quick. It is not obvious who won the hand or what hand they held. Yes it is in chat, but it needs to be slowed down on the table. The awarding of the pot needs to go slower and there need to be some built in pauses so the action can be mentally processed.
  5. Player “Tags” (Shark, donkey, etc.) are useless. They are too small when utilized and are of nominal value because they cannot be customized. People track various things about players; these tags are trivial. Again, think PokerStars’ color coded, customizable color tags.
  6. Sound controls are lacking. I might want to hear more than just MY sounds, but do I really need to hear a lame “card shuffling” sound before EVERY hand dealt? This makes me just want to punch the monitor. It is "auditory clutter".
  7. In general, the main Lobby organization and filter is a mess. I could write at least two pages on this topic alone. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, look at PS’ lobby.
  8. Put a table lobby button on the table interface. Lose the BJ icon.
  9. Take the “Folded XX” text info off the table. Again, it is clutter. If someone wants to know what they folded, they have the “folded” mouseover functionality.
  10. Show the chips in the pot, in multiple stacks by chip denomination at all times , not just a number in parentheses.
  11. Tournament playing stats are reset upon changing tables. This is most likely a bug. What sense could it possibly make? As it stands, it is of nominal importance because the info provided is so bad anyway. Again, PS’ table stats with the capability of choosing when to reset.
  12. Clear the table of cards at breaks. From across the room it would be easier to tell if the tournament has resumed.
  13. Update the player chip stack total in the table lobby quicker after a hand is finished.
  14. Show tournament running time in the table lobby, not the date and time it started.
  15. Show next tournament level in “time until”, not time of next level, or just eliminate it entirely from the table lobby since it is displayed on the table.
  16. In a tournament, when being moved, why ask a player’s agreement to be moved?
  17. Introduce an RSA key or at LEAST a clickable PIN for added password security. Not having this is just ridiculous.
  18. As a part of “totally re-working the main lobby”, which I have already mentioned, is sorely needed, there needs to be a system of “Satellites to this tournament” and “This is a satellite to XXX”, with clickable links to those tournaments. It would be SO much easier than having to dig through that mess of a Lobby. Again, most of this has already been “perfected”.
The interface is SO crucial to making the game playable. The current interface isn’t horrible, but I does need a lot of work so it doesn’t make players tired, due to clutter, or make them “work” to something that should be easy.

If anyone at RPM wants to PM for clarification, I would be happy to help.
05-08-2011 , 02:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SixesUp
Really? I just learned something. I'll have to check it out.

Seems like a cumbersome, non-intuitive location.

Thanks.

You do seem to come off as a douche in most of your posts. No need to be negative, just offer your suggestions and that's it. If you don't like the site then move on, seems pretty simple to me.
05-08-2011 , 06:04 AM
Show player tags and notes in the lobby. It would be nice to know beforehand that I'm entering an SNG with 9 rakeback nits.
05-08-2011 , 10:10 AM
Cashier would be nice on the poker client itself but until this is done I think you should put a log off button on the player admin area. For example when I go on to do my online banking there's a log off and then for added security they suggest I close and reopen my browser. I have to assume this adds some level of security and should be fairly easy to implement.
Thanks, Casey
05-08-2011 , 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SixesUp
And I have sent a lengthy list of about 18-20 suggestions a few pages back. I can link to them if you need them.

I really dont see much point in a boat load of suggestions which lead to no action, but if that's what youo want us to do, I guess we can.

Here you go.... have at it.
If you'll notice from the start of this thread a few years ago until now, there have been many, many suggestions. Many of those suggestions have been implemented into previous releases of the software, and I'm sure that many of the suggestions included since the last release will be included in the next one.

Your input has a real, tangible effect on the development of the Merge software, and the eyes of the developers are always on this thread!
05-08-2011 , 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by RPMSeth
Players who are sitting out are booted after 10 minutes or 3 orbits - whichever comes first!


Seth, I know this should probably go in the suggestion box but I remembered you replied to this b4 on this thread.

At any rate I would recommend that RPM does the reverse; 10 minutes or 3 orbits which ever comes last.
I just got up for less than 5 minutes to ....... and I was booted. That was way too fast. Thanks, Casey

I put this in the newbie thread but since you mentioned that SW developers look in here I thought it would be best to put it in here too.
05-08-2011 , 03:52 PM
It's an extremely trivial issue, but I imagine the fix could be equally trivial.

Can you remove the dollar sign from play money? It pisses me off every time I see it when I open cashier.
05-08-2011 , 04:25 PM
Seth, please consider making RPM and Merge the first and only site to stop ratholing. Nobody likes them, not even recreational players. Seeing the same stinking ratholers at every table is a pretty big problem

My suggestion is to lower the min buyin to 20bb because fish like it, but expand the time limit on buying in below what you left with to all tables. A per table basis is archaic, and game-killing ratholers can get away with being a drain on the poker economy by being able to move to different tables, yet it's no less cheating/going south if it were on the same table.

Something like allowing players to only buyin at below the lowest amount they left any table the first 5 times per day, then after that they have to buy in at the lowest they left any table up to the max buyin. This would allow casual players to play with shortstacks, but would eliminate the vampires sucking the blood out of the games by ratholing 50 different tables a day.
05-08-2011 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
Seth, please consider making RPM and Merge the first and only site to stop ratholing. Nobody likes them, not even recreational players. Seeing the same stinking ratholers at every table is a pretty big problem

My suggestion is to lower the min buyin to 20bb because fish like it, but expand the time limit on buying in below what you left with to all tables. A per table basis is archaic, and game-killing ratholers can get away with being a drain on the poker economy by being able to move to different tables, yet it's no less cheating/going south if it were on the same table.

Something like allowing players to only buyin at below the lowest amount they left any table the first 5 times per day, then after that they have to buy in at the lowest they left any table up to the max buyin. This would allow casual players to play with shortstacks, but would eliminate the vampires sucking the blood out of the games by ratholing 50 different tables a day.
Are you basically saying making short stackers buy in to the next table they sit in on (after pushing and winning an all in) buy in for what they left the other table with? Sorry I was having trouble following your post......
05-08-2011 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
Are you basically saying making short stackers buy in to the next table they sit in on (after pushing and winning an all in) buy in for what they left the other table with? Sorry I was having trouble following your post......
Yes. You said it better than I did

This should have been done a long time ago. Poker sites make the mistake of copying live methods to prevent ratholing, but they don't work because of the changed dynamic of being able to play only one table live vs internet multitabling. The correct way for sites to attack ratholing is to say "you can't effectively take chips off the table by sitting at a new table". Playing live, there isn't a problem with this because people can't switch tables all the time, but on the internet, because table switching is standard, the sites have to treat ratholing like it applies to all tables instead of just specific ones.

This is an extremely easy fix, and would be great for the games. Every poker player on the planet hates ratholers, be they good regs or casual players. Ratholers are vampires, and the sites are kidding themselves if they think that they have taken the right preventative measures.

The normal approach has been to raise time limits or raise min buy ins, but those are wrong. Recreational players like to and should be allowed to buy in small, and time limits don't reflect the reality of how quickly tables turnover online. The correct thing for the sites to do is to treat taking chips off one table like it applies to all tables. There could be some leeway though that would allow non-ratholing shortstacker recreational players to do what they want with something like a 5-10 times allowed taking chips off any table limit per day, but this would kill professional ratholers


I think that if Merge did this they would see even more of a boost of players since basically every site has problems of shove or fold ratholers that frustrate everybody including the recreational players that keep the games running.
05-08-2011 , 07:54 PM
I see what you're saying but I think from a sites perspective these players are good for the rake. Also, although I don't like them either, they aren't cheating. (I'm not saying that you're implying that they are). I think the time on FTP was 30 minutes b4 they could buy back (short) into a table they left. With all the tables FT had it didn't restrict them much at all but on merge it should with so few tables in comparision. What's the time frame for when they can buy back in short on merge?
I do get great satisfaction busting them
05-08-2011 , 11:00 PM
They don't aid site rake at all, they actually hurt it. Looking at the poker economy from the kinds of players it needs, ratholers are actually a detriment to the rake. You need regs who keep the games running, and casuals who keep the regs on the sites. Ratholers are neither and unnecessary, and the rake they generate is lost over the long term by how they kill action from normal regs and casuals.

There are ZERO arguments for ratholers being good for anybody other than themselves
05-08-2011 , 11:02 PM
Pls to add 9 man's omaha hi-lo sng's.
05-08-2011 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
They don't aid site rake at all, they actually hurt it. Looking at the poker economy from the kinds of players it needs, ratholers are actually a detriment to the rake. You need regs who keep the games running, and casuals who keep the regs on the sites. Ratholers are neither and unnecessary, and the rake they generate is lost over the long term by how they kill action from normal regs and casuals.

There are ZERO arguments for ratholers being good for anybody other than themselves
Suggestion: Please make the minimum buyin 40BB and start some cap games for the SS.
05-08-2011 , 11:31 PM
Can you guys enable chat for tourneys your not in or tourneys that you bust from ? Would like to rail some forum games , but cant chat
05-09-2011 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
Suggestion: Please make the minimum buyin 40BB and start some cap games for the SS.
I actually don't like that. Casual players like to buy in short, and that's actually good. Cap games only segregate the pools and make the games worse

The fix is simply not allowing ratholing. The sites turn a blind eye by allowing people to take chips off one table then just min rebuy at another. It's effectively no different than sitting out then sitting back in with a lower amount at the same table. The tables need to be treated like a unit in this regard.

If Merge stops ratholing, it will up their rep with both regs and casuals, and the rake will eventually bump even higher than with the ratholers. Allowing ratholing hurts the site's bottom line in the long term
05-09-2011 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
Suggestion: Please make the minimum buyin 40BB and start some cap games for the SS.
Not this. I believe the dilution of the player pool across the normal and cap games would more than outweigh the benefits to be gained by preventing shortstacking.
05-09-2011 , 01:58 AM
I don't quite know if it's been brought up yet, but some form of disconnect protection would be nice. I had been playing at an omaha table for about an hour and had a killer hand that was bet into me when my internet crapped on me for about 30s. Needless to say by the time it came back up I had folded my hand and lost out on a good pot.
05-09-2011 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mikes007
Not this. I believe the dilution of the player pool across the normal and cap games would more than outweigh the benefits to be gained by preventing shortstacking.
We don't actually want to prevent shortstacking. SS is good, recreational players that keep all us regs running the games and generating the rake actually like buying in short, and nobody has a problem with that. The games are healthy when there are a lot of recreational shortstacks. It's ratholing that's a problem. Ratholing pisses off both the regs and the casuals. Regs and casuals are the only kind of players good for the economy. Ratholers are vampires who hurt the economy because all they do is take money out of it without providing any of the things that keep games running, bring in more players, run more games, etc

I think Merge would find themselves more regs and more casuals and more games and more rake if they dropped the min buyin to 20bb, but disallowed ratholing from table to table.
05-09-2011 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dwbrown7680
I don't quite know if it's been brought up yet, but some form of disconnect protection would be nice. I had been playing at an omaha table for about an hour and had a killer hand that was bet into me when my internet crapped on me for about 30s. Needless to say by the time it came back up I had folded my hand and lost out on a good pot.
+1

You can place a limit on it to prevent abuse... like a 90 sec clock per 24 hours or something.
05-09-2011 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mikes007
Not this. I believe the dilution of the player pool across the normal and cap games would more than outweigh the benefits to be gained by preventing shortstacking.
Good point
05-09-2011 , 11:39 AM
It probably has been mentioned before, but are you adding any 2nl tables instead of having 4nl being the lowest level you can play? Also maybe add a few bad beat tables at slightly lower levels then 100nl.
05-09-2011 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
It probably has been mentioned before, but are you adding any 2nl tables instead of having 4nl being the lowest level you can play? Also maybe add a few bad beat tables at slightly lower levels then 100nl.
Good god, please no BBJ under 100 NL ever.
05-09-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by britdevine
Good god, please no BBJ under 100 NL ever.
Not even 50NL?

      
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