I remember reading in a thread that RB players do not gain VIP points at the same rate as non-rb players.

KOTR: You can keep doing this over and over.
OVDR club. Correct about it just being a bonus generator.

I was told rakeback players only earn 6.5 VIP points per dollar raked when I inquired about rakeback yesterday.

What increments are the bonuses released in? If I receive a $100 bonus, do I have to clear the entire $100 in 60 days, or is it released in smaller increments?

Seems about right with 35% rakeback

The Clock in the lobby. I think it is GMT -5 hrs.

For cash tables you can check how many hands you played at a table by looking at the stats tab in the chat box and keep track of it table by table. Of course I always close the table before I remember. Someone else said that you could ask support and they will tell you. Use the live chat in the lobby and they should be there noon to midnight EST.

The deposit bounes is released in $10 increments so I imagine that all bonuses do.

For the 500-5x promo...if you played 500 $10 sng and 500 $5 sng, would you receive 5x your buy in for each level and be in the overdrive club?

I sent e-mails about the Monday and Thursday promo's. How can I tell that I am active on these?

I also would like to know about this. I sent emails as well. Thanks

If you send the e-mail in, you're automatically opted in.

Do these pts count towards clearing bonuses or towards VIP status?

Thanks

These points do not count towards clearing your bonus or VIP status. They only count for VIP points to cash exchange, and using VIP points to buy in to tournaments.

Do the VIP Points auto-convert to cash at some point?

No, you will need to do it yourself. Click on 'Player Admin' > 'VIP Points Exchange' on the left menu.

I learned today that you have to logout for the bonus to update and get applied. If you have played 20k hands you must have earned enough for a bonus. Try logging out and back in.

When you opt-in to promotions such as Burn Out Mondays do you receive and acknowledgment?

Thanks,

No acknowledgment is sent, but everyone who sends the email is opted in automatically.

can you do the ovdr club over and over again?

Your bonus clearing percentage is correct if you get 10 VIP per $1, but rakeback players are 6.5VIP/$1. So, to use some lazy math, 0.65 * 13.333...% = 8.666...%.

I analyzed all this stuff for myself and so others can benefit

TL;DR version:
RB = 35% base + 6.5% VIP points + ~1% royal = ~42.5%
With a bonus running, RB2 = RB + bonus = 42.5% + 8.7% = 51.2%
On Sunday playing only 25 DoNs = RB2 + 50% = 101.2%
On Mon. and Thur., If double VIPs don't apply to bonus clearing rate: 57.7%, and if they do: 66.4%

500-5X is +10% best case scenario
Tourny king and bankroll boost are impossible to quantify due to so many variables
BBJ is usually directly -EV to play in, but might have enough collateral benefit to be +EV based on inducing gambooooling by recreational players, running off good players when jackpot is low, and attracting good players as jackpot builds.

Elementary school version:
Rakeback good
Bonus better
Monday and Thursday great
Sunday awesome

Dissertation version:

Base is 35+6.5 = 41.5, plus 8.666 if you have a bonus running (50.1666), plus various other bonuses.

1) Royal flush bonus: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...-flush-326411/
Assuming we fold cards that could make a royal before the river about 50% of the time (player dependant, use your own empirical data if you want), that gives 130k:1, and you get paid 100bb, so that comes out to 100bb/130k ~= 0.077bb/100. Since every player's bb/100 in rake generated is different, this will lead to a variable percentage. Searching the forums gives:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...-100-a-867009/
so we'll use 6bb/100. Thus, 0.077/6 = ~1.3%, so it's probably in the range of 0.8-1.3% RB depending on player. Obviously, the variance on this one is huge and it's tough to quantify. 1% is probably safe.

2) Bankroll boost: Impossible to quantify. I'm sure there are nutcases out there playing 50 tables 24/7 at 2c/4c and 5c/10c just to get the $500.

3) Speedy Sunday: Rake on DONs is 8%, you get 1 buyin back of 25, or 4%, so this is equivalent to 50% RB.

4) Double VIP days (Monday/Thursday): I'm not sure if this affects bonus clearing rate. If it doesn't, then it's an extra 6.5%. If it does, then it's an extra 6.5% + 8.666% = 15.1666%. If this was FTP, I'd immediately assume it was the former. Can somebody confirm/deny these?

5) Tuesday: $11 tournament ticket for 2500 hands. If you clear it at Micro stakes this is a much better deal than at higher stakes.

6) Friday and Saturday: bonus, so only good if you don't have a bonus clearing (or are about to clear a bonus)

7) 500-5X: This one is worded strangely:

"play 500 SnG tournaments in any month at the same limit and receive a cash bonus of 5 times your favorite tournament buy-in (minus rake)"

Anyway, assuming you do the optimal case of only playing 500 games of 1 buyin, and if your rake rate is 10%, and this is 1% back if you play exactly 500 SnGs, then this is a 10% RB. This percentage goes down as you play more tournaments. If you play 1000 SnGs of the same type, it's 5% RB.

8) OVDR club: Really big bonus (Would need $17.3k in rake to clear it). Also, it nullifies your current bonuses, so if you have a current big one then this isn't worth much. I imagine the withdrawal fees can be a decent boon. Checks are $15, so it's a good plan to get overdrive club in one month and do all your withdrawals.

9) tourny king: I'm not even going to bother. So many "it depends." You'd have to create some function of player pool average skill level and number of tournaments they play, your skill level, what bracket you're in, etc. etc.

10) BBJ: Not a big impact on rakeback. Definitely -EV at jackpot sums below $100k

After the double points thing gets answered, it's /thread

My understanding is that the double VIP points DON'T get applied to your bonus, just you ability to trade VIP points directly for cash.

When you send an email to opt in for the double VIP days, do you get a response back to know that you are being tracked for double points? And do you have to opt in every week?

Nice post Landwar.

I like the fact that rpm does not encourage insane volume grinding like Stars did. Should keep the tables good longer. With bonii all over the place, I don't see how you could ever be playing without bonus clearing.

Noticed several people mentioned how brutal the rake is compared to stars.
I dont get it? It is 5% toped at $3. Isn't that what Stars had?
Mostly interested in 6max NL.

You're automatically added, no confirm. No need to opt in every week.

Is there a time limit on their 1st deposit bonus?

All bonuses expire after 90 days. Network rules!