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08-16-2011 , 12:17 PM
OMG, Seth... really i will never ever ever do another 6 man doubleup.... I'm not being paranoid, but theres just too much collusion/and/or softplay... if you are playing $50 $100 level i doubt its possible to turn a profit longterm.

I'm seeing CONSTANT walks when 4 are left bigstack to shortstack, or a limp from bigstack then a checkfold to shorty, or a minraise/fold

also if i, or another noncheating guy shove or whatever bigstack will call... but only cuz it was me and not his partner... its cheating and it cant be proven really and all support will do is nothing cuz u cant force someone to shove or call but its clear softplay SO often in these things and it MUST stop!
08-16-2011 , 12:35 PM
So are you saying that YOU never take part in the implicit collusion/softplay that is/has always been +EV when playing DONs/DUs?

How much you lose?
08-16-2011 , 12:45 PM
Ok mako, you are basically admitting that you are ok with it and probably do it yourself and its ok to cheat? Me personally i can win str8up so i dont go outta my way to cheat.

I'm certain after playing 5-6 games that the softplay is a definate, chipdump im not 100% but im guessing its done, its just so obvious the way it plays out at the end and its sad cuz you really cant prove any of it for the most part
08-16-2011 , 01:03 PM
I wouldn't say this is standard, but some regs do NOT take small +EV shoves in these games on short stacks. They prefer to keep their chipstacks intact rather than shove for 4bb or so.

Last edited by MyMaseratiDoes185; 08-16-2011 at 01:05 PM. Reason: spelling
08-16-2011 , 01:14 PM
i understand its smart to "lock it up" and even fold aces sometimes, i do. im talking about just the obvious"walk everytime, except when the other guy(me) comes in" I played thousands of these on stars, found MANY cheaters... i been refunded and i really hope RPM finds some of these scums, Seth go rail a few of these if you ever have time and you'll see what i mean.

ANother example ill have 900 another will have 900 chipleader has 4k, guar in... he'll open jam whenever the 900 stack folds and he puts pressure on me, if 900 stackshoves, then he'll fold thebigstack but if I shove, then theyll either both call/check it down, or the bigstack will call with K10 and gamble with me, but NEVER the there guy, im seriously DONE playing these, i had awesome stats on stars in these games and horrible on RPM, im certain by just playing about 10 and watching a dozen that they are not honest.
08-16-2011 , 02:37 PM
Care to give us some name pairs so we can avoid playing with them?
08-16-2011 , 03:01 PM
We take allegations of collusion very seriously; if you have any information you would like us to take a look at, we most certainly will. Please send me an e-mail from your registered e-mail address, along with the games you would like us to look into.
08-16-2011 , 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjc2
Care to give us some name pairs so we can avoid playing with them?
+1

This thread is pointless unless you out their screen names
08-16-2011 , 05:11 PM
I don't know how you can even begin to talk to the security team about this. They don't accept patterns of softplay between players as signs of collusion (i.e. walks/limpfolds to the same shorties).
08-16-2011 , 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by khanrava
I don't know how you can even begin to talk to the security team about this. They don't accept patterns of softplay between players as signs of collusion (i.e. walks/limpfolds to the same shorties).
Patterns of softplay can be considered collusion, but there is more that goes into it than that. I'll be happy to look into it myself and pass on any information provided.
08-16-2011 , 06:52 PM
I've turned over at least 6 screen names on Merge in regards to colluding in DONs. If you don't want to publicly list their screen names, please PM me. I'm sure I play against some of them daily and would like to take a closer look myself.

Thanks
08-17-2011 , 03:18 AM
Sad but true, can`t touch DoNs etc. with a bargepole due to fear of collusion
08-17-2011 , 12:32 PM
MOd please close this thread, thanks i found how exploitable they are!
08-18-2011 , 10:53 PM
Mark275, haha...you're hilarious.
08-19-2011 , 06:12 PM
Thread closed at player's request!

If there are ever any serious allegations of cheating or collusion, we take these allegations very seriously. Please send all relevant information to Manager at RPMPOKER.com.

      
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