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05-23-2012 , 01:38 PM

#151

Gorgonian

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Originally Posted by mightytiny

I go to the official website for the stream

http://moscow2012.fide.com/en/live?g=20120523

I see the houdini analysis of the game but the video is an art discussion or some other topic than chess

you dont think art is important?

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05-23-2012 , 05:33 PM

#152

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Originally Posted by mightytiny

I go to the official website for the stream

http://moscow2012.fide.com/en/live?g=20120523

I see the houdini analysis of the game but the video is an art discussion or some other topic than chess

That's actually the Houdini analysis of the art you're looking at.

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05-23-2012 , 05:39 PM

#153

mightytiny

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Originally Posted by ganstaman

That's actually the Houdini analysis of the art you're looking at.

LOL thats pretty good...ty

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05-24-2012 , 07:09 AM

#154

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once again a very ambitious opening by Gelfand, i'm amazed at what they cooked up for black.

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05-24-2012 , 07:39 AM

#155

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Im on the wacky moscow 2012 site again...english video feed...so what do I get...heavy industry commericals I think in Russian...

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05-24-2012 , 07:44 AM

#156

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and now freaking art discussion again...but if Svidler would be the one talking about art i wouldn't even mind, i'm such a fanboy.

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05-24-2012 , 07:45 AM

#157

DiggertheDog

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its not the best feed but I have been following this site.
no commentary
http://www.chessdom.com/anand-gelfand-game-10-live/

or chess fm
http://www.chessclub.com/chessfm/

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05-24-2012 , 07:47 AM

#158

Tarheel

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Ok so seriously... can i get a link to some real analysis please. I'm not interested in what an autumn tastes like or what a real winter in the form of a landscape and genre painting in one.

Edit: Nm, i see links above. Thanks!!

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05-24-2012 , 08:01 AM

#159

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wow I know these super GMs have great defensive abilities but this looks like to has to be a decisive setup with gelfand castling long?

doesn't it?

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05-24-2012 , 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog

wow I know these super GMs have great defensive abilities but this looks like to has to be a decisive setup with gelfand castling long?

doesn't it?

*Note: posting this after 17...Nd5*

This is a tough position for me to evaluate. White has the better pawn structure and nicely placed knight on c4, but black has two bishops and central control. I guess white can try to attack the c5 pawn and try to control the e-file, I don't see much else to do.

I think it would be tough to play black here. White doesn't have any weaknesses other than the c2 pawn which can only be attacked by one black piece. If I was black, I would certainly be floundering without a plan. I guess he'll just try to improve the placement of his pieces and avoid white's threats. I don't know.

I really don't know what to think.

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05-24-2012 , 08:57 AM

#161

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I kinda like white there for a second now I am not so sure.

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05-24-2012 , 09:15 AM

#162

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draw agreed. Good game from both sides, Gelfand will be happy with the way he equalized.

Curious to hear the press conference, Svidler thought there might be a little something for white after a3.

haha, someone asked: "Question to both players: With the danger of the wc being decided in 5min-matches coming closer, do you think it would be better to return to the old system where the challenger has to win?"

yes, i probably know what both think of that proposal

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05-26-2012 , 07:18 AM

#163

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nimzo with a possible rare sideline from black with bd7.
Lets hope we can get a good complicated position.

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05-26-2012 , 07:35 AM

#164

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Apparently quite a rare ....8...Bd7 as gelfand has gone into the tank for the first time this match in the opening.

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05-26-2012 , 07:46 AM

#165

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Thank God they finally started the transmission of "Masterpieces of the Tretyakov Gallery". It was about time. After all, if I tune into the video transmission of the Chess World Championship it is obvious I want to see paintings and not two old guys sitting there moving pieces.

Seriously, I understand the commercial breaks but that art show is just ridiculous. I am tempted to blame FIDE but I suspect the organizers from Moscow are responsible...

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05-26-2012 , 08:15 AM

#166

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The announcers are at least trying to describe the dynamics of this match being so late and tied. Gelfand has two games to win one and become world champ. At his age, I hope he makes the most of this last opportunity.

As a chess fan, I do not want another "older" new world champ.

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05-26-2012 , 08:19 AM

#167

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I got to admit I dont understand Blacks last couple(5) of moves.

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05-26-2012 , 12:02 PM

#168

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Originally Posted by Ajezz

FIDE is to blame obviously. It's their event. If they can't find organizers that honor the event in the way it should be honored, they need to find other organizers,...

... or take the blame.

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05-26-2012 , 12:10 PM

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With Anand having white in the last game and owning Gelfand at rapid and blitz, Gelfand basically had to win today to have a realistic chance, right? How big of a favorite is Anand now? Like 3-1? 5-1?

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05-26-2012 , 12:21 PM

#170

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it's far from given that Anand owns Gelfand at rapid. Gelfand won a lot of rapid games of huge importance lately (FIDE world cup and candidate matches).

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05-26-2012 , 06:12 PM

#171

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Originally Posted by Mayo

Young care free Anand would crush Gelfand 20 years ago. Now with both players longer in the tooth results even out more.

Novelities and prepared lines are harder to meet in shorter time controls....Lets see what they have up their sleeves.

For what its worth..the match should be declared a draw if its even after this last game. Rapid and knockout format is how the world got some scrub FIDE world champions in the late 90's early 00's

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05-26-2012 , 06:44 PM

#172

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12 games world championship is weak, it should be 24 imo.

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05-26-2012 , 08:23 PM

#173

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Originally Posted by valenzuela

12 games world championship is weak, it should be 24 imo.

for the money involved the logistics behind a 24 game match were not immovable to overcome

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05-26-2012 , 09:10 PM

#174

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What logistics? You just need 32 pieces and a board.

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05-26-2012 , 11:48 PM

#175

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I think the World Championship should always be the current champion vs whoever has the highest rating, it should be best out of 100 games, and if the challenger doesn't win by 10 points, then the incumbent remains champion. It's utterly insane that anyone as weak as #3 in the world might have a shot at this, and obviously whoever won two years ago should have an insane advantage because he won 2 years ago.

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