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02-24-2011 , 12:10 AM
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...cision/?hpt=C1

What do you guys think of his reasons?
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02-24-2011 , 12:24 AM
A Christian used the bible to justify an action that is so loosely related to bible scripture that rational people can barely understand how the two correlate? Shocking!

The kid is stupid. Or really smart. I think he's less likely to get crap for this reason than for "I'm not wrestling no girl!"
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02-24-2011 , 12:27 AM
Northrup’s dad, Jamie, said that the decision to forfeit was his son’s alone but that it reflected the family’s Christian convictions.
Dad would never impose his beliefs on his son.

Last edited by VP$IP; 02-24-2011 at 12:36 AM. Reason: it wouldn't be the Christian thing to do
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02-24-2011 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...cision/?hpt=C1

What do you guys think of his reasons?
They are bad, based on pure sexism.
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02-24-2011 , 01:06 AM
Cant wrestle a girl because their fun parts might get in comprising situations but can wrestle a guy in spite of their fun parts getting in comprising situations....interesting.
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02-24-2011 , 05:18 AM
They are as good (or as bad) as most other reasons people have to not wrestle a girl. I wouldn't wrestle her either.
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02-24-2011 , 05:50 AM
Well, as far as the bible goes I think he could just claim she wasn't a virgin and have her stoned to death. Problem solved.

As far as religious grounds go, I don't see a particular problem in refusing some sports match for those reasons as far as we assume he will automatically lose the match, and not gain an easier opponent/way to victory.
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02-24-2011 , 09:49 AM
I just think it's weird for a guy to wrestle a girl and can totally understand why he wouldn't be comfortable with it, religious reasons or not. Although it could be fun as a form of sexual foreplay.
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02-24-2011 , 09:59 AM
The wrestler never said it had anything to do with religion.
Not sure why this is even a topic here.

Maybe he actually meant this: “Wrestling is a combat sport, and at times it gets violent, and you get put in moves and holds that are comprising,” said Joel Northrup, a sophomore. “I just don’t believe it's right that a boy and a girl should, in this manner, wrestle.”

Sounds like a good reason to me.

I wrestled in college and wouldn't turn down a chance to wrestle a chick.... maybe face down.
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02-24-2011 , 12:31 PM
Maybe this story works better for you Joey?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6136707

"Because "wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times," said 16-year-old home-schooled sophomore Joel Northrup, in a statement. "As a matter of conscience and my faith I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner."
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02-24-2011 , 12:32 PM
If the other two reasons were the reason why, then yeah, so be it it doesn't belong here. But he specifically reference his faith as a reason for not doing it. So, yeah, its an RGT topic now.
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02-24-2011 , 01:21 PM
The reasons are purely sexist so I think they are silly, but if that is how he wants to handle the situation that is fine by me. If it makes him uncomfortable he can just take his loss and be done with it.
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02-24-2011 , 01:21 PM
Reasons given are BS. Clearly afraid of loosing to a girl. I really have a tough time caring about this. Surprised it got any media coverage at all
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02-24-2011 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by from the article
“Even though there’s no specific Scripture that addresses wrestling with girls, there is the biblical Christian principle of treating women with respect and dignity,” Jamie Northrup said, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”
Is there no biblical Christian principle of treating men with respect and dignity and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped and slammed?

Why come up with a complete ******** reason when no reason is required the first place? Surely he can forfeit for whatever reason
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02-24-2011 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Raker
Reasons given are BS. Clearly afraid of loosing to a girl. I really have a tough time caring about this. Surprised it got any media coverage at all
He wasnt going to lose.
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02-24-2011 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
The wrestler never said it had anything to do with religion.
Not sure why this is even a topic here.

Maybe he actually meant this: “Wrestling is a combat sport, and at times it gets violent, and you get put in moves and holds that are comprising,” said Joel Northrup, a sophomore. “I just don’t believe it's right that a boy and a girl should, in this manner, wrestle.”

Sounds like a good reason to me.

I wrestled in college and wouldn't turn down a chance to wrestle a chick.... maybe face down.
From the OP's link

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Northrup’s dad, Jamie, said that the decision to forfeit was his son’s alone but that it reflected the family’s Christian convictions.

“Even though there’s no specific Scripture that addresses wrestling with girls, there is the biblical Christian principle of treating women with respect and dignity,” Jamie Northrup said, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”
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02-24-2011 , 03:24 PM
there is the biblical Christian principle of treating women with respect and dignity,” Jamie Northrup said, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”

Is there a "biblical Christian principle" of treating men with respect and dignity,”, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”?

Apparently not.
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02-24-2011 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
From the OP's link
Thanks for making my point
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02-24-2011 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VP$IP
there is the biblical Christian principle of treating women with respect and dignity,” Jamie Northrup said, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”

Is there a "biblical Christian principle" of treating men with respect and dignity,”, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”?

Apparently not.
No... there's not.

Next?
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02-24-2011 , 05:43 PM
Jesus was a wrestler?

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02-24-2011 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
He wasnt going to lose.
Probably not as the kid is pretty highly ranked but I wouldn't dismiss the idea that he may have had anxiety over wrestling a girl.
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02-24-2011 , 09:57 PM
Sounds like a silly religion to me, but there's nothing special about that. I don't really see what I'm supposed to be thinking about to be honest. Probably felt funny fighting a girl and rationalised some reason.
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02-24-2011 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny
Sounds like a silly religion to me, but there's nothing special about that. I don't really see what I'm supposed to be thinking about to be honest. Probably felt funny fighting a girl and rationalised some reason.
Fear of losing to a girl .... end of story.

It was a lose/lose situation.

You beat her ass.... you beat up a girl! You lose.... you lost to a girl!
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02-24-2011 , 11:51 PM
I heard about this on ESPN radio. Meh it is what it is. Obv I think his points are silly if based on religion (I'm going to admit I did not read the article). But I also grew up with a family a few houses down from me who I think were some form of amish. I am not exact on their religion so forgive me if that is not correct. The family was extremely old fashioned, they farmed, girls always wore full length dresses like you would see in something from gone with the wind, guys never wore shorts, always full length pants, uses of modern day things like electricity and such were non existent, (they did have but rarely used a car), they did not celebrate christmas, and so on and so forth.

the reason I bring this up is because when I was young some 10-13 year old kids in our town would work for our town doing small jobs and getting paid a super minimal amount. one of the kids in that family worked with us one summer. I remember a very hot day where we were all working around one of the supervisors house. there was a pool where we were working and at the end of the day everyone went swimming. he would not go in the swimming pool with us because he said his religion forbade swimming with other girls who could be in their menstrual cycle.

sorry for the choppiness/grammar (lack), too much (wine) sacrament
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02-25-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
No... there's not.

Next?
So did you purposefully ignore my post, or just miss it?
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