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Why does religion exist? Why does religion exist?

09-30-2010 , 04:11 AM
All of these questions posed in this forum are merely a sidetrack. Since the earliest humans, we have had religion, in one form or another. So why do humans worship a god (or gods)?
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09-30-2010 , 05:02 AM
Because regardless of whether you believe it or not, God is real.
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09-30-2010 , 05:19 AM
Unfortunately, we just cannot demonstrate it dag nab it! He is a slippery little guy.
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09-30-2010 , 05:24 AM
Anyway, as for a real answer, it is likely a combination of reasons. Fear of death and the natural 'where did everything come from' question come to mind. The bottom line is that people like having a feeling of awe as well as answers and so they like to make that stuff up.
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09-30-2010 , 05:32 AM
What makes God (or Gods) real? Why do humans think the way that they do?
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09-30-2010 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Deorum
Anyway, as for a real answer, it is likely a combination of reasons. Fear of death and the natural 'where did everything come from' question come to mind. The bottom line is that people like having a feeling of awe as well as answers and so they like to make that stuff up.
So why do they all make up basically the same thing? Why do they all make up an explaination that is supernatural instead of something natural....something which looks like a process they observe in the world around them?
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09-30-2010 , 05:43 AM
There are plenty who have differing ideas. Buddhism and Raelism, for instance. And there are of course plenty who don't have any such beliefs.
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09-30-2010 , 06:03 AM
But all human cultures are defined by their religion. Even communism in a sense was a religion. What makes us, as humans, religious beings? Why do we need a God (or Gods)? Why do humans feel the need for the supernatural?
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09-30-2010 , 06:07 AM
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So why do they all make up basically the same thing? Why do they all make up an explaination that is supernatural instead of something natural....something which looks like a process they observe in the world around them?
Huh? this equates all religions in the world as equal. I seriously doubt that you mean that.
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09-30-2010 , 06:16 AM
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So why do they all make up basically the same thing? Why do they all make up an explaination that is supernatural instead of something natural....something which looks like a process they observe in the world around them?
Because religion was a means for control.

Nobody is fearful of or sees fit to donate money to a natural process.

They do donate to the idea that people are working in conjunction with a magical man in the sky that did it all and is watching their every move and will punish them forever if they're bad.

But instead you would prefer to overlook human greed and pretend that anyone who ever created a religion was interested in truth and nothing else.
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09-30-2010 , 06:18 AM
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But all human cultures are defined by their religion. Even communism in a sense was a religion. What makes us, as humans, religious beings? Why do we need a God (or Gods)? Why do humans feel the need for the supernatural?
cuz

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people like having a feeling of awe as well as answers and so they like to make that stuff up.
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09-30-2010 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Because religion was a means for control.



They do donate to the idea that people are working in conjunction with a magical man in the sky that did it all and is watching their every move and will punish them forever if they're bad.
Spoken like a true fan of George Carlin.
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09-30-2010 , 06:33 AM
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cuz
Cuz isn't a reason.
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09-30-2010 , 06:34 AM
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people like having a feeling of awe as well as answers and so they like to make that stuff up.
is, though.
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09-30-2010 , 06:53 AM
It seems pretty likely its because we have evolved genetic tendencies to recognise and empathise with humans and specifically parents. And the religious hypothesis fit the weaknesses created by these useful heuristics really well.

So basically just that we are not as smart as we think we are, we make good progress using short cuts, and get other things completely wrong because of short cuts.
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09-30-2010 , 07:26 AM
Lots of reasons. As a means for the elite to control the masses. To provide comfort when a loved one is lost. As an attempt to explain events we see that we don't understand. (rain god, etc) The list goes on, of course, and im sure others will add them as we go.
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09-30-2010 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacob_Gilliam
All of these questions posed in this forum are merely a sidetrack. Since the earliest humans, we have had religion, in one form or another.
Also, may i ask how you know this?
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09-30-2010 , 07:34 AM
Um because they didnt have CCTV in 1 A.D
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09-30-2010 , 07:35 AM
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Also, may i ask how you know this?
He was there obviously. Thats how he knows the babble is true.
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09-30-2010 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Because religion was a means for control.

Nobody is fearful of or sees fit to donate money to a natural process.

They do donate to the idea that people are working in conjunction with a magical man in the sky that did it all and is watching their every move and will punish them forever if they're bad.

But instead you would prefer to overlook human greed and pretend that anyone who ever created a religion was interested in truth and nothing else.
Do you believe all religions are means of control? Are all religions also political ideologies? Is/was Buddhism a means of control? Christianity? Judaism? Paganism? etc etc.
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09-30-2010 , 11:53 AM
Why does religion exist?

Follow the money. It is a jobs program for the Priesthood.
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09-30-2010 , 01:37 PM
Religion as it is today was in a real sense unnecessary at the beginning of our post Atlantean time. the first cultural period during this epoch was called the Ancient Indian in which the holy Rischis were the teachers of Man who possessed a clairvoyant consciousness.

This means that when a man went to sleep the difference between day and night was not as marked as during our present times. During this sleep period he literally "walked with the Gods" and was aware of the existence of Thor,Wotan, Zeus, Apollo, Kali as he lived within the spiritual world and its many hierarchies of beings( read Angels in modern terminology). Please note that I include different names from different cultures in my examples as these Beings are of a cross cultural nature( could say this better but hopefully the point is made).

Daytime consciousness was not as clear as today as ancient man, when looking at nature, saw colored forms with a perception of the individual beings which were of a spiritual nature which stood behind the individual plant for example. An example would be the 'little people" of Irish lore . these people HAD NO NEED FOR RELIGION AS WE KNOW IT AS THE EXISTENCE OF A SPIRITUAL WORLD AND ITS ATENDANT BEINGS WAS OBVIOUS.

The world as "Maya or illusion" came about from ancient Indian times as they in a sense had no use for what we call our perceptive world as they "knew the true world of the spirit".

Mankind gradually lost this clairvoyance but at the same time gained a personality or individuality directly related to his Ego Being. Previously he was immersed in the Cosmos with a markedly less individuality and as his progression continued on he became more of an "I" but at the gradual loss of his natural clairvoyance. He lost perception of the Spirit. this was evident for example when Homer has Achilles(?) state "better a beggar on earth than king of the shades".

Paul coming to a what we would call a pagan temple is overwhelmed by the participants calling him and his compatriots "Gods" such as Mercury( don't remember the passage exactly but somebody here knows). These people weren't childish but their loss of ability to see what they knew existed had brought them great distress. It was known in ancient times that a higher Being could enter a Man and give "news" of the spiritual worlds through him. In these times this Being has been classified as an "Avatar". They assumed that Paul was acting in the same manner. He rightly corrected them and spoke of the "New Times" in which Man would return to his accustomed spirituality through Christ; not through "Avatars" and instruction through advanced individuals but through Christ in the hearts of all men, that Christ who is now the "Spirit of the Earth" and will guide Mankind to his apportioned place in the Cosmic Spirituality only in this "New" case he will have "Personality" which is another way of saying he will be an "I" being.

Religion became a matter of revelation and now became necessary for it is a "re-ligare" or retying of Man to his previous state. It is absolutely not necessary if one is in that state. It becomes a moot point.

But Man has continued to crash into matter and appears to be totally lost whether in religion or science in the "return" of the great religions,, this return guide by Christ, not a man but a Being known to other religions by the names of Vishva Karmen, Ahura Mazdao and other names to which I am not privy. Its a cacophony of the sublime as i am unable to reach its significance.

Mankind is actually very spiritual at present in his thinking and thoughts but the pull of theoretical materialism as an obstacle and boon for his further progression is apparent.

Yes, this is Anthroposophy Bunny; and as always the progression of individual man cannot be accomplished in one life as reincarnation and karma are also boons to man in order to "return". This again is a moot point.
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09-30-2010 , 04:34 PM
Pattern seeking.
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09-30-2010 , 04:41 PM
Religion was not 'developed' as a means to control people. It can control but it does not exists because of a need to control people.

Someone asked "Why do humans feel the need for the supernatural ( I hate the word supernatural as its an oxy moron but whatever...)"?
We feel the supernatural. We don't "need" to feel it , we just do.

Religious experience is EXPERIENCED by humans. We then try to explain that experience in a way that supports our preexisting world view. If religion does have a 'function' (ie why) then it is to try to explain and communicate these profound experiences.
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09-30-2010 , 04:50 PM
Because making up answers to questions is easier than actually finding out those answers, so its only in the last few years science has started to catch up.
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