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Because the top 10% are the brightest and don't want to be raped/killed/pillaged. So they just made up a bunch of **** about a talking snake and a magical sky palace to keep people distracted.

Are you claiming that without religion, people would be raping, killing, and pillaging? I think I understood something wrong.

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07-07-2012 , 09:58 AM

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Because the top 10% are the brightest and don't want to be raped/killed/pillaged. So they just made up a bunch of **** about a talking snake and a magical sky palace to keep people distracted.

You're a conspiracy theorist.

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07-07-2012 , 10:04 AM

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Are you claiming that without religion, people would be raping, killing, and pillaging? I think I understood something wrong.

Groggy cannot stop shooting himself in the foot. This is starting to get painful to watch.

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07-07-2012 , 10:45 AM

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I have a question for you. Why, throughout history, have 90+% of all humans that have ever lived, believed in some form of god, deity, higher power, etc.? Regardless of what they've called it they believed, and still do to this day. Why is that, do you think?

Because Humans have a basic need to explain the unknown, The easiest way is to explain it off as a deity.

I don't know this as a fact but i would venture to guess that as the knowledge of humans has grown over time the belief in God or Gods declined.

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07-07-2012 , 11:28 AM

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Are you claiming that without religion, people would be raping, killing, and pillaging? I think I understood something wrong.

He's basically reiterating the Napoleon Bonaparte quote:

“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.”

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07-07-2012 , 02:54 PM

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The Answer Within The Question

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"Why believe in one God when there are clearly many other Gods created by man?"

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07-07-2012 , 05:32 PM

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I think OPs question would be much better stated as "Out of the hundreds or thousands of gods to chose from, what makes you assume your god is the correct god?" I don't think it's a good question because there are no good answers, even when stated as such. Basically, every post is going to be a distraction that allows an atheist to swoop in and accurately say "BS."

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07-07-2012 , 05:54 PM

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We have greater proof of the electron than we do of God.

That takes care of that.

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simple logic

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07-07-2012 , 08:09 PM

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Hmm, there seems to be a lot here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron in support of the electron. It does require some reading though instead of regurgitating thousand year old scripture.

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07-07-2012 , 08:11 PM

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There are no good answers or there are no answers that you agree with?

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no good answers, if an answer was good it would be agreeable with the majority of the peoples, like gravity

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Hmm, there seems to be a lot here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron in support of the electron. It does require some reading though instead of regurgitating thousand year old scripture.

LOL.

So...you think that the opposite of "foolish Bible reader" is learning science from wikipedia. No wonder you thought that you could see electrons in a microscope.

This just keeps getting better.

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http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...opularity.html

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07-07-2012 , 08:38 PM

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You can look in a chemistry book as well, the information is the same.

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http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...opularity.html

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07-07-2012 , 08:43 PM

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Because the top 10% are the brightest and don't want to be raped/killed/pillaged.

This might have worked for an old dictatorship, a king, queen, or other one-leader government, but it doesn't work in a democracy/republic. And yet, 90+% still believe.

I'm going to assume my original argument, that you're simply ignorant.

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Because Humans have a basic need to explain the unknown, The easiest way is to explain it off as a deity.

See Groggy, it's really not that hard.

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07-07-2012 , 08:55 PM

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You can look in a chemistry book as well, the information is the same.

I might be wrong, but I think RLK has cracked one or two chemistry books.

*cough* RLK has a PhD in Chemistry *cough*

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07-07-2012 , 09:04 PM

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I might be wrong, but I think RLK has cracked one or two chemistry books.

*cough* RLK has a PhD in Chemistry *cough*

That makes no difference to the point I've made. That's a good one though. http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...authority.html

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There are no good answers or there are no answers that you agree with?

Like Tmjm said, there are no good answers. Anyone is free to prove me wrong on this, but they can't. The only arguments that do work are personal arguments based on community, friends or family, not belief.

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07-07-2012 , 09:14 PM

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One good answer might be that one particular religion is what they were raised to believe. But that only makes the question worth repeating. Why would you believe in one religion once you've discovered that others exist? Is there a mental block that does not allow certain people to connect the dots, that many of the things they were once taught isn't true?

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07-07-2012 , 09:16 PM

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That makes no difference to the point I've made. That's a good one though. http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...authority.html

Jesus ****ing Christ man. Do you really think I've never heard of the appeal to authority fallacy? Really? I'm (basically) on your side with regard to your general premise. That being said, you're very poor at using rhetoric, which is why you haven't came off so well in this thread.

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http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...authority.html

Ummmm... that fallacy doesn't mean what you think it means.

You must enjoy embarrassing yourself

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07-07-2012 , 09:18 PM

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If I'm not good at using rhetoric I apologize. I only want to cut right down to core of things as quickly as possible.

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07-07-2012 , 09:21 PM

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Why would you believe in idea X once you've discovered that others exist? Is there a mental block that does not allow certain people to connect the dots, that many of the things they were once taught isn't true?

I still fail to see how the EXISTENCE of beliefs other than one's own is reason to conclude that one's beliefs are false.

You believe that God doesn't exist. I believe that he does. By that "simple logic" you should think that you're wrong.

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07-07-2012 , 09:22 PM

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If I'm not good at using rhetoric I apologize.

Well, the issue isn't really rhetoric. Your issue is logic.

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I only want to cut right down to core of things as quickly as possible.

In your attempt to do so, you've managed to cut your position down to something that is clearly false.

Perhaps you should aim less for speed and aim more for accuracy.

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