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03-16-2009 , 04:33 AM
of course there is not concrete answer to this question, but post YOUR answer and your reasons why. this should be interesting
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03-16-2009 , 04:43 AM
[mock answer]
1) MY religion
2) Because my religion says so
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03-16-2009 , 07:43 AM
I don't think you can prove a true religion. Christ himself spoke against "religion". He was all about Spirit. That's why he verbally indicted the Pharisees so many times. Religion is like a cup or a seed pod: just the outer shell responsible for holding the something else until its ready to increase or transfer. That something else is the truly important thing.

Humans take comfort though from recognizing or identifying their own cup and attaching too much importance to the personal cup itself and that's exactly where most problems start. Knowing where to divide concepts is a human problem in general. You see it all over this forum. There is almost constant boundary moving on here. Probably why atheists can never get faith ideas because their internal perceptions of where theists draw their analytical/doctrinal boundaries is usually wildly off even to the point of calling theists liars when they are simply incapable of grasping the point. Its always easier to call somebody else a liar than to admit you just didn't understand something. You have to put down your own ego to admit you didn't understand.

Atheists never draw their analytical lines in the same place as theists. That makes Paul look right: there is a more developed spiritual mind and a non-spiritual mind and its rountinely demonstrated on here just in the way people outline questions and their approaches even discounting the attitudinal approach differences.

Last edited by Splendour; 03-16-2009 at 07:55 AM.
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03-16-2009 , 08:01 AM
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Its always easier to call somebody else a liar than to admit you just didn't understand something. You have to put down your own ego to admit you didn't understand.
It's a bit like when someone makes up stories to cover something that they don't know up, rather than say, I don't know, now, isn't it.
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03-16-2009 , 09:39 AM
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Its always easier to call somebody else a liar than to admit you just didn't understand something. You have to put down your own ego to admit you didn't understand.
Like how the universe got here?

Like what happens after you die?
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03-16-2009 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bias1
of course there is not concrete answer to this question, but post YOUR answer and your reasons why. this should be interesting
Lets do a full circle and to get back to your conclusion.
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03-16-2009 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bias1
of course there is not concrete answer to this question, but post YOUR answer and your reasons why. this should be interesting
The one true religion is "I don't know."
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03-16-2009 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gitro
It's a bit like when someone makes up stories to cover something that they don't know up, rather than say, I don't know, now, isn't it.
See its always more important to dominate by shooting someone else down then to apply patience and understand the point they are trying to make. Its so important we toss our own eternal fate into the fire to rush in and dominate someone.

You also forget that for Christians there is a process involved. Its pretty hard to pinpoint everything in the faith process particularly when that process is being run through individual jars of clay.

That's why we resort to dogma so much. Because the process is so hard to explain and its human nature to try to dominate one another.

But the Christian spirit is suppose to be a humble one. We are actually trying to allow the only one who has the right to dominate work through us.

Christ submitted to the will of God and is the anchor in our chain while we submit to Christ. He was a foundational stone and model stone that we build on.

Its the demands of the world that force theists into constant positions of dogmatism. We are living the truth through a process and a transformation and dogma just can never be adequate enough in explaining the process. Dogma is merely a map of the stages of faith development.

All of this is complicated by the fact that man is made in God's unseen image. God is both unique and he is spirit.

Each of us is unique and the only way we can have a saving spirit is by modeling on Jesus himself (the one who was seen and witnessed to the world) who as the Son of God modeled on his Father.

Sons usually have precious relationships with and model on their fathers. Even in the world today some of the best men and the worst men are the result of their father's influence.
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03-16-2009 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
I don't think you can prove a true religion. Christ himself spoke against "religion". He was all about Spirit. That's why he verbally indicted the Pharisees so many times. Religion is like a cup or a seed pod: just the outer shell responsible for holding the something else until its ready to increase or transfer. That something else is the truly important thing.

Humans take comfort though from recognizing or identifying their own cup and attaching too much importance to the personal cup itself and that's exactly where most problems start. Knowing where to divide concepts is a human problem in general. You see it all over this forum. There is almost constant boundary moving on here. Probably why atheists can never get faith ideas because their internal perceptions of where theists draw their analytical/doctrinal boundaries is usually wildly off even to the point of calling theists liars when they are simply incapable of grasping the point. Its always easier to call somebody else a liar than to admit you just didn't understand something. You have to put down your own ego to admit you didn't understand.

Atheists never draw their analytical lines in the same place as theists. That makes Paul look right: there is a more developed spiritual mind and a non-spiritual mind and its rountinely demonstrated on here just in the way people outline questions and their approaches even discounting the attitudinal approach differences.
The first paragraph above speaks volumes of why Jesus spoke the way he did. Yet how many who follow the religion realise that the religion itself is not an end in itself. In fact nowadays it most probably does not serve at all for what Jesus was hoping his followers would attain.
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03-16-2009 , 04:07 PM
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The one true religion is "I don't know."
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03-16-2009 , 04:18 PM
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The one true religion is "I don't know."
That answer comes from grace.
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03-16-2009 , 05:02 PM
since no one has said a religion, i guess ill be the first one to do it

Jehovah's witness is the true religion.

Why? because everything i have ever learned made perfect sense, i have never questioned a single part that has been taught to me in my 18 years as a Jehovah's witness.
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03-17-2009 , 02:05 AM
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The one true religion is "I don't know."
This religion you're talking about is in much need of reform.
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03-17-2009 , 02:09 AM
My rankings:

1. Scientology
2. Mormonism
3. Raelians
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