Life isn't better than no life from the universe's perspective, but it is for from the perspective of the living.

It's true that if all life ended the universe wouldn't notice.... but so what? There is a very distinct difference between "cosmic significance" and "significance"

How do you prove that it is significant? Significant to who?

To me. Why should my existence need to be significant to anyone else?

If I do my part (however small) in furthering the existence of humanity) I'd say that makes me pretty darn significant.

Sorry thought we were talking about the human species, don't worry little buddy you're special.

Nice edit, nice save sir.

Gather up everyone this guy going to further the human existence, so after he's dead he's going to have a sense of pride.......oh wait he's dead.......i mean in 20k years everyones going to remember his name.....well maybe not.

well yea i misunderstood i thought we had turned to personal significance. If the question is how do we know what we do is significant as humans.... you really should read the sartre book. If we were created by God, it makes sense that he would imbue us with a set of qualities H. Just as before a carpenter makes a table, he knows everything the table consists of, God, in making humans would know and "build" us with certain qualities. However since there is no God in the view of sartrian exestentialism, that means there is no roadmap like this. Therefore each human being is responsible to act in such a way that defines "human." In other words, your actions as an exestentialist work to set the standard for how human beings should act. In this way, all of your actions affect humanity as a whole.

Also, if you are just going to be a condescending jerk off I'll lose my patience with you pretty quickly.

I edited that wayyyy before you responded to it.... I misunderstood and attempted to claify, there was no "save"

Why you mad bro? your letting the human species down.

I follow no god or man. Tomorrow I can wake up and be whatever I want to be. I owe the human species nothing, theres no way I should act or how it ought to be. But don't worry little buddy your special along with the other 7 billion disillusioned ugly fat girls.

Are you a 13 year old Evanescence fan or just an insufferable ****?

One thing is for sure. Life is to short to waste any more of it on you. Later.

There is apparently a way you should act if you want to talk to him.

Don't worry I win, thanks for playing.

Go take your meds sweetie

Ad Hominem ITT

mr muck i gotta ask, what's your goal in posting here?

at this point we get what you're saying. life is pointless and in the long run nothing really matters. ultimately, you're right. but that doesn't mean there's nothing to enjoy about our pitiful little existence.

seems like you just get a kick out of trolling and are trying to get people riled up. if so, fine.

but one thing you won't be able to do is to get others thinking like you. this is because you're suffering from depression, which is an illness.

most people feel we do have ethical duties toward each other. most people don't see life as devoid of all meaning. most people aren't depressed all the time.

antidepressants often take more than a month to kick in. i know a couple people who are on them. if you aren't feeling better in a few weeks, please talk to your doctor and get a different medication.

I just want to make it clear that the atheists life is no better than the theist life style. So they believe in God and you guys don't therefore you guys are better. I laugh at this because both sets of people meet the same fate and the clock is ticking.

The way the atheists view the theist is the same way I view atheists. Disillusioned.

ok. well i think hitchens summed this up quite well:

"I know what's coming, I know no one beats these odds. It's a matter of getting used to that, growing up and realising that you're expelled from your mother's uterus as if shot from a cannon, towards a barn door studded with old nail files and rusty hooks. It's a matter of how you use up the intervening time in an intelligent and ironic way. And try not to do anything dastardly to your fellow creatures."

you are right, we're all doomed. enjoy the ride while it lasts. this is hard to do when you're suffering from depression, so please get the help you need.

I didn't know i thought i was better then theists. The more you know...

So no harm in believing in God then if your no better no point in switching from theist to atheist. No point in trying to convince theists that their belief is wrong if its no better to do so.

Im not really interested in talking with you either. Ill just stick to zippy one liners.

That's all you got buddy........zing!

you may feel this way but many others don't.

lots of atheists think that religious beliefs are harmful to our society and species. you may not understand or care why they care, but they do, for a variety of reasons.

That about sums it up. That and the joy of seeing the interesting argumentation.

so some religious beliefs are harmful and its BETTER to be an atheist? is that what you are saying....the more you know...

The bottom line is one ought to try to live a good life. Other's pain and suffering should be minimized. If you are able to help others, do so. If you are able to become a better person and learn from your mistakes/short comings, do so.

If you try to walk this path you will minimize your own pain and suffering.

If you struggle from depression you should seek help. Don't procrastinate. Therapy, medication, ensuring you have the right diagnosis by getting second opinions are all prudent decisions.

Be well,
checkm8