Actually, I thought a better example was what happened in China a few months back. A little kid gets run over by a car. He's in the street dying. Dozens of atheist-commies just pay him by without stopping. I think he gets run over again. Nobody even cares. They just keep walking by.

Welcome to the end days.

How do you know that they are either atheist or communist? How does either claim relate to their apathy in this situation? (certainly there are empathetic communists and atheists).

China.

Do you suppose they were all church-going folk?

When atheists have to resort to these "show me the definition of definition" type-arguments, you know they are on their backs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystand...table_examples

California. New York.

Do you suppose they were all church-going folk?

Guess this is what it feels like to be on my back...

To be fair your China example is there too, though obviously most of these occurred in the good 'ole god-fearing US of A.

California. New York.

Listen to yourself, man.

I feel like saying amen.

Are you claiming these places have insignificant theist populations?

As I recall, not quite 15% of people in the US are non-religious, though FAR FEWER self identify as either atheistic and/or agnostic. It is fair to say that it is most likely that the groups mentioned in the link (examples of the Bystander effect from NY and CA) aren't comprised of just "atheistic-commies", even if your portrayal of the Chinese incident was entirely accurate (which it almost certainly isn't).

FWIW, I think all incidents of this type suck something horrible, and it doesn't matter who perpetrated the passive bystanding.

I don't know the definition of definition. How's that?

I take your evasiveness to mean that you concede the point.

Doggg didn't you justify the she-bear bible attack by claiming that "those kids were probably mercenaries" and "bears weren't that big in olden days"? I'm surprised to find you waxing emo here tbh.

Clearly, that child was going to grow up to be a Muslim communist liberal abortion doctor and God just intervened to harden the bystanders hearts.

p.s. Cars aren't that big in China

maybe there will be no apocalypce?

I think you missed this compelling evidence

I'm afraid atheists don't have a monopoly on appalling apathy. Nor is today any worse than it was 6,000 years ago.

Lol, you were the one who jumped to them being atheists and communists because they are Chinese. Now you are turning it around as if I was going to suggest they are all going to church? Btw, people can not be atheists and not go to a christian church. Gasp.

The point is you talked about chinese people being apathetic and then started talking about how they were atheist and communist as if this was relevant. Even if your assumption of them being atheists and communists was justified (it isn't) you still have made this unjustified and insulting insinuation that their being atheists and communists is relevant to their being apathetic.

See how many people ignore a "baby left in a hot car" in this you tube clip. Has nothing to do with religious beliefs or lack thereof.
This was recently tried again by another TV station. Same result. Dozens walked by but only two people intervened.

Whenever anyone gets tired of debating with a Christian. Present this question to them. "Do you spend money on maintaining your lawn and making it look nice, or instead, do you forsake your lawn and spend that money on feeding a child that is starving to death?"


Matthew 22:36-40 (KJV)

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

This is a serious question for OP or anyone else ITT of faith. At the end of times, what will happen to non-believers like me?

Alright, now that I've bummed out just about everyone.

Jesus states...

Matthew 19:21 (KJV)
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Obviously, none of us are perfect. The following is from an old Myspace blog that I did. This is the least that someone should do.

Saturday, October 20, 2007
MISSION STATEMENT

To promote awareness of world hunger and alleviate suffering by educating the public on how they can contribute resources to end world hunger. I am working very hard to spread the word on world hunger and I have come up with two plans where if everyone invests their fair share of resources, the return can be donated to charities whose goal is to alleviate world suffering.

Saturday, October 20, 2007
FRIENDS

HUNGER IS GETTING WORSE - 2005 UN REPORT
God will bless the people who are doing something about the hunger situation.

(Proverbs 19:17) He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again. (KJV)

The hunger problem has been a serious issue for me, for some time. You see the result here after much praying. I believe that promoting hunger awareness along with solutions, will go a long way in helping this issue. People will try and meet their obligation when they realize what is fair. This is not an impossible situation, if everyone pulls together. God provides enough for all his people to live a decent life. The question is if they will distribute his resources equitably to bring about this state of affairs.

Eternal destinies hang in the balance. God will judge people on the basis of how they have cared for the needy in their midst.

(First Timothy 6:6-10, 17-19) Places the rich under a special responsibility to be generous. God's kindness to them should be expressed in being kind to others, storing up treasures in Heaven, not Earth.

Saturday, October 20, 2007
LOVE

Feed The Hungry

So, how are we going to go about feeding the hungry? What is fair?
1 billion people need to be fed. Cost to feed 1 billion people for a year is $180 billion (estimate). Net worth of the world is $70 trillion. Your fair share? .25 percent of your personal net worth, each year. In the above example a person with a net worth of $30,000 should donate $75 a year, each year. Now we each have a specific goal and not some arbitrary figure.

God wants you to help, if you can.

http://www.feedthechildren.org


GOOD NEWS

God has a plan for you. Pray for guidance and be patient.
Are you lost? Will you be saved?

(Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (KJV)

(1 John 1:9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (KJV)

(Isa 45:22) Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I'am God, and there is none else. (KJV)

(2 Co 6:2) For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time, now is the day of salvation. (KJV)

(Rom 10:13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be saved. (KJV)

(Revelation 22:12) And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (KJV)

I can't thank everyone enough for their support and for being so kind to me.

Above all I thank God.

Love,
Larry

1 Corinthians 10:31
Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

Why are you an unbeliever?

The end will come equally to the just and to the unjust as does the rain.

Day of Judgement

Revelation 20:11-15 (KJV)

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Exactly how much sleep have you lost over the souls of the unbelievers you accept will be tortured for ever?

Is the fire literal or spiritual?

Dr. Stephen E. Jones
The Lake of Fire or the Molten Sea
http://gods-kingdom-ministries.org/B...s/Chapter3.cfm

In addition, the respective scenarios for the wicked, whether annihilation or eternal torment, shaped images of God's judgment. For instance, at times fire consumes the wicked (1 Enoch 99:12); in other texts fire and worms torment their victim to a useless existence (Judith 16:17).

I currently believe that unbelievers will be blotted out, that is to say, not exist. But don't take my word for it. Sometimes people have to be careful about interpreting God's word.

I suggest that you pray about it

Annihilation - the state of being annihilated; extinction; destruction.