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12-28-2009 , 11:08 AM
Get to readin!

If these fun chapters don't make for more discussion, I'm quitting and reading Karen Armstrongs last book.
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12-28-2009 , 01:52 PM
will read these wednesday or thursday
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12-28-2009 , 02:42 PM
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The Man in the Moon is in fact a record of ancient catastrophes <snip> ... It is a characteristic conceit of our species to put a
human face on random cosmic violence
"putting a human face on" could be the subtitle of the book.
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12-28-2009 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by luckyme
"putting a human face on" could be the subtitle of the book.
same with Silence of the Lambs
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12-28-2009 , 03:50 PM
crap, I'm still on chapter 1! I'll get reading tonight...
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12-29-2009 , 08:12 PM
A little off-topic, but I found this amusing:

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Each field of science has its own complement of pseudoscience....
Economists have long-range economic forecasting.
I'd be interested to hear the criteria which judges economics science and long-range economic forecasting pseudoscience. I've done a little economics over the years and it seems to me a lot of it is pseudoscientific (ie the uncanny ability to predict what's just happened and provide cogent explanations for why hardly anyone expected it, the plethora of equations and models whose variables are so arbitrary and subjective as to be almost valueless, the fervour with which competing views are disparaged, etcetera).
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12-29-2009 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny
A little off-topic, but I found this amusing:



I'd be interested to hear the criteria which judges economics science and long-range economic forecasting pseudoscience. I've done a little economics over the years and it seems to me a lot of it is pseudoscientific (ie the uncanny ability to predict what's just happened and provide cogent explanations for why hardly anyone expected it, the plethora of equations and models whose variables are so arbitrary and subjective as to be almost valueless, the fervour with which competing views are disparaged, etcetera).
I don't think we need to limit the discussion to RGT topics, if its in there, its fair game.

(crap, still on chap 2, will try and finish that tonight and start 3 tomorrow!)
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12-29-2009 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny
A little off-topic, but I found this amusing:



I'd be interested to hear the criteria which judges economics science and long-range economic forecasting pseudoscience. I've done a little economics over the years and it seems to me a lot of it is pseudoscientific (ie the uncanny ability to predict what's just happened and provide cogent explanations for why hardly anyone expected it, the plethora of equations and models whose variables are so arbitrary and subjective as to be almost valueless, the fervour with which competing views are disparaged, etcetera).
nassim taleb's books focus on just this very subject.
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12-30-2009 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bunny
A little off-topic, but I found this amusing:



I'd be interested to hear the criteria which judges economics science and long-range economic forecasting pseudoscience. I've done a little economics over the years and it seems to me a lot of it is pseudoscientific (ie the uncanny ability to predict what's just happened and provide cogent explanations for why hardly anyone expected it, the plethora of equations and models whose variables are so arbitrary and subjective as to be almost valueless, the fervour with which competing views are disparaged, etcetera).
Lumping econimics in with hard science is clearly weak, it opens him up to the critic that proper science is just whatever he likes.
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12-31-2009 , 03:12 AM
Not much to talk about w/ this book.
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01-01-2010 , 01:23 PM
thats what i was thinking.

we should be reading a christian book imo.
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01-01-2010 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonystic
thats what i was thinking.

we should be reading a christian book imo.
Yeah.
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01-02-2010 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonystic
thats what i was thinking.

we should be reading a christian book imo.
I think that in light of all of the recent talk on the historicity of Jesus and the reliability of the gospels we should have a double feature. Reading both Greg Boyd's book "The Jesus Legend" and Erhman's book "Misquoting Jesus"

We could even arrange it so that we are reading similar chapters between the two books back to back so that we can compare and contrast the arguments.
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01-03-2010 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
I think that in light of all of the recent talk on the historicity of Jesus and the reliability of the gospels we should have a double feature. Reading both Greg Boyd's book "The Jesus Legend" and Erhman's book "Misquoting Jesus"

We could even arrange it so that we are reading similar chapters between the two books back to back so that we can compare and contrast the arguments.
How long is the Boyd book? IMO shorter books are easier for internet book clubs to actually get through. I've read the Ehrman book and it's fairly short and an easy read.
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01-04-2010 , 12:02 AM
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How long is the Boyd book? IMO shorter books are easier for internet book clubs to actually get through. I've read the Ehrman book and it's fairly short and an easy read.
hmmm, not very short. About 480 according to Amazon.
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