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I'd never heard about that. So you're saying Bob Dylan accepted Christianity just to become famous, then rejected it later? And that now, Bob Dylan is beyond redemption? So like, even if he makes an album called "Sorry Jesus, Please Take Me Back" where he repents, it won't matter at all?

No I am saying he made a deal with the wrong source of power to become famous, he never has been a Christian. If he had been he couldn't lose eternal life. Nope no song or begging or crying can help him. Can you beg or cry or sing your way out of being the genetic person you are because of your daddy? He can not either except it is not genetics, it spiritual seed instead of physical seed.

I forgot who posted the interview with him anyone on here remember or have a link to it.

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03-15-2009 , 07:39 PM

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New guy has to bring donuts, I think.

Chick-Fil-A please also!!!!

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03-15-2009 , 07:43 PM

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I spend way too much time on here. Mr. Sklansky, I think I deserve a free book.

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03-15-2009 , 07:46 PM

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Why do you try to argue against science when something you believe contradicts it?

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03-15-2009 , 07:49 PM

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Why do you try to argue against science when something you believe contradicts it?

What contradicts what? Seriously.

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03-15-2009 , 07:53 PM

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Mr. Sklansky, I think I deserve a free book.

Nah, you don't want to get any more familiar with that mind then what's necessary.

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03-15-2009 , 08:22 PM

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Nah, you don't want to get any more familiar with that mind then what's necessary.

I understand, I do not want to sleep with him though, just a freebie book. LOL!

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03-15-2009 , 08:28 PM

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Post the verses please, prefferably King James Version, we will take a look.

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"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

"Thou shalt not kill. " (Exodus 20:13)

I did read your story and you sound like the perfect person to ask this to.

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03-15-2009 , 08:44 PM

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"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

"Thou shalt not kill. " (Exodus 20:13)

Thou shalt not kill, is the law and to kill those who break the law in this manner and other manners is also a law. I see no problem with the verses.

One is the law and the other is also the law for breaking the law by commiting homosexual acts. Of course this is Old Testament Law and we do not live according to the Old Testament Laws anymore. Jesus Christ fullfilled and did away with the Olt Test Law. Bringing in a new Law, the law of love. Now we are just to avoid them unless they want help.

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03-15-2009 , 09:18 PM

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Now we are just to avoid them unless they want help.

Where does it state this in the NT?

Paul endorses killing teh gayz even

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03-15-2009 , 09:55 PM

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Where does it state this in the NT?

Paul endorses killing teh gayz even

Saying that they deserve death is not telling us to kill them. Paul was given the stewardship of the administration of Grace. Which is the time we now live in.

God's grace is to all men, Grace is undeserved favour from God to man, and within that Grace is God's mercy, meaning a withholding of deserved judgement.

Yes according to the law they are deserving of death, so are alot of others, but we do not live under the law, but under Grace.

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03-15-2009 , 10:50 PM

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with the hebrew translation, there is a possibility that "thou shall not kill" could mean "thou shall not murder", which can make a difference.

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03-16-2009 , 12:12 AM

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Again, where does it state in the NT that "we are just to avoid them (gays) unless they want help"?

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Saying that they deserve death is not telling us to kill them. Paul was given the stewardship of the administration of Grace. Which is the time we now live in.

Paul equates homosexuality to murder yet he was the steward of the administration of Grace? Do your own beliefs think that homosexuality is on the same level as murder?

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03-16-2009 , 01:25 AM

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This thread has extremely ominous "The Well"-like similarities. Kinda creepy, especially as it's not like Pletho has actually achieved anything to deserve one. Anyway, onto my question:

Is this picture blasphemous? If so, is it better or worse other blasphemous things (such as calling God a ****)? If not, why not?

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03-16-2009 , 01:50 AM

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mark 13? please explain... specifically from 13:14 onward

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...r=13&version=9

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03-16-2009 , 02:45 AM

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Still hoping for a reply to the verse I posted about the trinity.

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03-16-2009 , 03:16 AM

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Pletho,

If there were a repeatable experiment that everyone in the world confirmed was 100% able to disprove Christianity, would you yourself conduct it as well?

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03-16-2009 , 06:34 AM

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A Max Raker question pulled from another thread:

"If you saw another person rise from the dead (you're 100% sure it happened) and he claimed to be the son of God and he told you that Jesus didn't really rise from the dead and you had to believe in him to get into heaven would you?"

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03-16-2009 , 06:34 PM

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Post the verses please, prefferably King James Version, we will take a look.

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Is there a reason you prefer a archaic 17th century text which Biblical scholars know is full of errors and mistranslations, when you could be reading more accurate translations?

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03-16-2009 , 06:51 PM

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Pletho,

If there were a repeatable experiment that everyone in the world confirmed was 100% able to disprove Christianity, would you yourself conduct it as well?

**** yeah

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03-16-2009 , 06:52 PM

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Is there a reason you prefer a archaic 17th century text which Biblical scholars know is full of errors and mistranslations, when you could be reading more accurate translations?

yeah, KJV is absolutely terrible and should never be used for any sort of discussion.

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03-16-2009 , 07:08 PM

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yeah, KJV is absolutely terrible and should never be used for any sort of discussion.

I guess now's a good time to ask a question about Bibles. I have a paraphrased "The Living Bible" and "The Book" which are basically the Bibles that are good for beginners to get into. Now that I am moving along in my biblical knowledge I wanted to ugrade and one of my choices was an original KJV... but not now.

What would my fellow Bible readers suggest?

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03-16-2009 , 07:17 PM

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NASB or NIV are always good choices. KJV is just bad because it translates things weird. Mostly into words that aren't used now, or not in the same capacity. Plus the KJV was not translated from the original documents. So you are getting a copy of a copy instead of a translation of the original.