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05-17-2009 , 10:37 AM
Assuming he lives a good life but also assuming his present day beliefs about religion, God, and Jesus remain the same. (I understand the admonition that no human has the right to judge the fate of another. Only God does that. I'm just asking for your best guess.)
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05-17-2009 , 11:23 AM
m guessing IF there is a heaven, he might end up there, but it's the islam heaven - and if anything he could end up in a bunch of other religious hells just as well, for worshipping the wrong dude maybe.

Last edited by jackie nguyen; 05-17-2009 at 11:24 AM. Reason: sorry didnt see christians were supposed to answer but i really wanted to comment cause i wanna know how it works
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05-17-2009 , 11:59 AM
What makes Sharad so unique that this question is at all interesting? Or are you just trying to stir things up even more?
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05-17-2009 , 02:08 PM
You're not going to get any straight answers out of the Christians on this forum. Most won't bother to answer, and those that do will respond with variations of "it's impossible to know the mind of god".
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05-17-2009 , 02:25 PM
id be shocked if he wasnt the second coming, to be honest
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05-17-2009 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ctyri
What makes Sharad so unique that this question is at all interesting? Or are you just trying to stir things up even more?
He is a non Christian theist who goes to great lengths arguing for the existence of a personal god in a way that I believe most Christians would agree with. Whats "stir things up" mean?
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05-17-2009 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
He is a non Christian theist who goes to great lengths arguing for the existence of a personal god in a way that I believe most Christians would agree with.
Do you really think "if you accept intelligent design and/or your own personal god, it's close enough" is something any Christian is going to stand behind as definitive grounds for salvation?


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Whats "stir things up" mean?
It means starting a thread asking the same tired question about the forum's new theist du jour.
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05-17-2009 , 04:07 PM
hmm.. the thing with shahrad is, he doesnt actually try to prove the existence. he says that its reasonable to believe in him because it makes him happy.
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05-17-2009 , 10:20 PM
I'm very tempted to post a George Carlin vid explaining religion = superstition that helps people feel better

but ill just write this instead
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05-17-2009 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jackie nguyen
he says that its reasonable to believe in him because it makes him happy.
Do you guys read with open eyes or closed eyes.
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05-17-2009 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Assuming he lives a good life but also assuming his present day beliefs about religion, God, and Jesus remain the same. (I understand the admonition that no human has the right to judge the fate of another. Only God does that. I'm just asking for your best guess.)
"No human has the right to judge the fate of another". I guess it really boils down to what do you mean by judge. A judge does the sentencing correct?

God is the only Judge but if God has already made a simple and plain statement and prerequisite for entrance into eternal life and this prerequisite is known by another person, then a person can by knowing what is required to have eternal life, determine that another man will not have eternal life based on what that other person believes.

Of course we do not know the future or the depths of anothers heart, so all we have to go by is their present actions and words.

So, to answer your question, as far as I know "shared" has never ever said that he has confessed Jesus Christ as his lord and believed that God raised Jesus Christ from the dead as is required to be saved according to Romans 10:9,10

The above is the absolute minimum required for eternal life for any person on the face of the earth. Muslim, Arab, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Greek, Gentile, Poker Player, Homosexual, Intellectual, on and on....

Pletho

Last edited by Pletho; 05-17-2009 at 10:58 PM.
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05-17-2009 , 11:35 PM
Pleeeeeethoooooooo
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05-18-2009 , 06:46 AM
Ok apologies again I put words in your mouth shahrad.

You only said 'if someone thinks believing in something makes him happy, he would be a moron not to' and 'people only do things that they think would make them happy. They think its reasonable.'

I combined the two sentences with the fact that you're a theist. Sorry about that, guess I read with closed eyes.
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05-18-2009 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
The above is the absolute minimum required for eternal life for any person on the face of the earth. Muslim, Arab, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Greek, Gentile, Poker Player, Homosexual, Intellectual, on and on....
God, you are such a douche. A committed douche, to be sure, but still just a douche....
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05-18-2009 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundGuy
God, you are such a douche. A committed douche, to be sure, but still just a douche....
I am glad I have your support.....

A douche is exactly what some people need for their minds......

Wash out all the lies the world has taught to them and then replace with the love of God and the truth and knowledge of the rightly divided word of God.

Have a great day!

Pletho
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05-18-2009 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
A douche is exactly what some people need for their minds......
This would be true, if your mind is a vagina or anus.

Mine isn't.
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05-18-2009 , 11:45 PM
it's impossible to know the mind of god
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05-19-2009 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RoundGuy
This would be true, if your mind is a vagina or anus.

Mine isn't.
That would give mind**** a whole new meaning...
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05-19-2009 , 06:23 AM
Don't worry Mr. Sklansky. As soon as we lose something, it doesn't belong to us anymore.
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05-19-2009 , 01:16 PM
Beliefs are only important to the extent that they are predicates of action. Nothing happens to anyone based solely upon what they believe. If, based upon his beliefs, he decides he wants nothing to do with God, and follows through in action, or inaction, then why would we expect him to? Interaction with God is no less cause and effect than anything else.
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05-20-2009 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by shahrad
Don't worry Mr. Sklansky. As soon as we lose something, it doesn't belong to us anymore.
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
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05-20-2009 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Not so important. It was related to the conversation about "douche". Someone makes a thread and it becomes independent and goes its own way.
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05-20-2009 , 06:07 AM
oh glad david asked that himself, i felt pretty dumb that i didnt get it ^^

i thought something like "when its time and you know you've been wrong, just dump the thought and you're fine" you dumped(lost) the thought, its no longer yours (so the rules dont apply anymore)
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05-20-2009 , 07:37 AM
Sklansky, I remember when your posts and thoughts were to be taken seriously.
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05-20-2009 , 01:14 PM
I'm not that familiar with Sharad except I believe he's Muslim right? (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, then the answer is no. The same answer applies to anyone who doesn't confess Jesus Christ as their personal savior.
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