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02-23-2009 , 12:55 AM
Imagine this earth only 100 years from now. In this hypothetical, religions are no longer practiced by anyone. They are relegated to the classrooms to be taught as myths. They no longer have any influence over politics or any groups of people.

How do posters in here envisage such a world? What, if anything, will fill the so called "spiritual" void of people. Will philosophy of ethics be taught in school replacing R.E.? Will the world fall apart as people no longer fear hell and do as they please? Will suicide rates increase dramatically as people lose the will to live feeling that there is no meaning to their existence? Will countries come together or drive themselves apart in this new "Godless" world?

Basically what do you think would be the pros and cons.


I am fully aware that this will not happen in the next 100 years, if you don't want to play along or don't have the imagination to contribute, then don't post.
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02-23-2009 , 01:07 AM
i dont think it will be that different from sweden today. maybe a bit less PC.
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02-23-2009 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by devilset666
Imagine this earth only 100 years from now. In this hypothetical, religions are no longer practiced by anyone. They are relegated to the classrooms to be taught as myths. They no longer have any influence over politics or any groups of people.

How do posters in here envisage such a world? What, if anything, will fill the so called "spiritual" void of people. Will philosophy of ethics be taught in school replacing R.E.? Will the world fall apart as people no longer fear hell and do as they please? Will suicide rates increase dramatically as people lose the will to live feeling that there is no meaning to their existence? Will countries come together or drive themselves apart in this new "Godless" world?

Basically what do you think would be the pros and cons.


I am fully aware that this will not happen in the next 100 years, if you don't want to play along or don't have the imagination to contribute, then don't post.
Will never happen; therefore, there is no point in posting non sense of this sort. Athiests are ******ed for one and have no clue wtf is going on. GTFO and **** 666 .. 777 ftw ...gtfo now
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02-23-2009 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by roblin
i dont think it will be that different from sweden today. maybe a bit less PC.
Good starting point. Although you are forgetting that Sweden is a modern secular European country. Imagine the middle east with no religion, America. Imagine how the relationships between countries and people would change. Do you think Sweden is a good example for the rest of the world to follow?
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02-23-2009 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsASickJoke
Will never happen; therefore, there is no point in posting non sense of this sort. Athiests are ******ed for one and have no clue wtf is going on. GTFO and **** 666 .. 777 ftw ...gtfo now
I am pretty sure it is you that should be leaving you inarticulate troll. I clearly stated this is a hypothetical situation and requested specifically that mentally challenged gentlemen without the imagination to contribute, such as yourself, should refrain from posting.
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02-23-2009 , 01:22 AM
Drugs, computers, biological enhancing and training to achieve different mental states (which could be anything from mastering 4 hands, perfecting computational abilities by symbiosis with computers or addiction to neural porn).

I don't think spiritality would disappear. Then again I am of the view that traditionalism and revealed religion kills spirituality because it locks your perception and mode of thinking in the pathways of others as opposed to your own.

In such a world I envision more individual freedom, more and more objection to governing and more and more widespread accepting of being different. I think some technological recession due to it being harder to pull the same way will be inevitable. This doesn't mean we will go backwards in time to previous technological levels...more that we would branch off in a different direction where getting things (technology) to talk (communicate) with eachother is more important.
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02-23-2009 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsASickJoke
Will never happen; therefore, there is no point in posting non sense of this sort. Athiests are ******ed for one and have no clue wtf is going on. GTFO and **** 666 .. 777 ftw ...gtfo now
interesting
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02-23-2009 , 01:33 AM
I think it's hard to answer without knowing if any significant events led to the absence of any religious beliefs.

How big is the population? Are the world governments still in tact as we know them today?

I ask because think about if religion was magically wiped from everyone's memory tomorrow by aliens from another planet. I don't picture much changing that quickly, rather thins like gay marriage would be come legal, maybe pot, and other policy changes over time. But I wouldn't expect any type of revolution, although I could be wrong.
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02-23-2009 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by devilset666
Good starting point. Although you are forgetting that Sweden is a modern secular European country.
which hopefully the rest of the world will be in 100years.

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Imagine the middle east with no religion, America. Imagine how the relationships between countries and people would change.
the relationship between US and middle east is not just about religion, but I guess without religion the politics might look a lot different.

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Do you think Sweden is a good example for the rest of the world to follow?
in regards to religion yes. some policys are not perfect, but compared to most other countries the results are much better.
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03-10-2009 , 07:33 AM
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one



Johns famous song Imagine
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03-10-2009 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by roblin
i dont think it will be that different from sweden today. maybe a bit less PC.
Pretty much what I was gonna say.
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03-10-2009 , 10:34 AM
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rather thins like gay marriage would be come legal, maybe pot, and other policy changes over time. But I wouldn't expect any type of revolution, although I could be wrong.
I do not think this is true. I think you are underestimating peoples self righteousness. There are plenty of non religious people that are against these things. And there are many christians that are unwavering on certain issues even when they are shown that their idea of morality does not follow from the bible. I have pressed on many Christians on certain beliefs and it usually comes down to "I just don't think it is right"

You are not going to get away from people think that their idea of right and wrong is the correct one. If anything getting rid of religion is going to compound this issue as there will no longer be any point of reference for morals.
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03-10-2009 , 11:25 AM
Replace religious doctrine and control with state law and control. The fear of God will be replaced by fear of the state, and people won't be thinking and saying things are "blasphemous." There will be no system of spiritual/religious morals, only the letter of the law. Children will be raised to respect, fear, and obey the state and its laws, and this is how the morality of the citizens of a possible future world society will be shaped. This will be the climax of our human story, religion's return will be the D'enouement, and there's going to be a surprise twist ending.

In other, more crude and atheist-friendly words, same ****, different pile.
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03-10-2009 , 05:37 PM
I love optimists.
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03-10-2009 , 09:18 PM
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Works for me.
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03-10-2009 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by devilset666
I am pretty sure it is you that should be leaving you inarticulate troll. I clearly stated this is a hypothetical situation and requested specifically that mentally challenged gentlemen without the imagination to contribute, such as yourself, should refrain from posting.
Facial, total facial
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03-10-2009 , 11:04 PM
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Imagine the middle east with no religion
That crater is frickin HUGE
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03-10-2009 , 11:42 PM
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That crater is frickin HUGE
Ohhh wow. That's horrible. lol..
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03-10-2009 , 11:47 PM
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I do not think this is true. I think you are underestimating peoples self righteousness. There are plenty of non religious people that are against these things. And there are many christians that are unwavering on certain issues even when they are shown that their idea of morality does not follow from the bible. I have pressed on many Christians on certain beliefs and it usually comes down to "I just don't think it is right"

You are not going to get away from people think that their idea of right and wrong is the correct one. If anything getting rid of religion is going to compound this issue as there will no longer be any point of reference for morals.
Gay marriage will be legal in a majority of states in 10-20 years anyway. I would love an explanation on why you think religion is the only point of reference for morals. That may sound like a condescending trap but I'm actually interested and that's not my intention (although I will probably argue with you after you post, I just won't be all "gotcha" about it =P )
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