Okay, please keep in mind Steps 2 3 4 5 of my system or protocol for proving by theists or disproving by atheists on God and His existence, of course understanding God in concept as the creator and operator of the universe and everything with a beginning.
Now, let us just everyone exchange views on the universe has a beginning or the universe has always existed.
Google is a terrific help for getting to know what things people know for certainty, so I will google the two phrases:
- the universe has a beginning
the universe has always existed.
Here are the hits respectively on each phrase:
Quote:
From google:
For “the universe has a beginning”:
About 86,700,000 results (0.77 seconds)
Search Results
- 1. The Beginning of Time - Stephen Hawking
www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html
Stephen Hawking
In this lecture, I would like to discuss whether time itself has a beginning, and whether it will have an end. All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe ...
2. The Existence of God and the Beginning of the Universe ...
www.reasonablefaith.org › Scholarly Articles › The Existence of God
Two philosophical arguments and two scientific confirmations are presented in support of the beginning of the universe. Since whatever begins to exist has a ...
3. DID THE UNIVERSE HAVE A BEGINNING? - Meta Research
http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmolog...ABeginning.asp
For most of the existence of our species on this planet, mankind has believed that our home, the Earth, was located at the center of the universe. Copernicus's ...
4. Mathematic Proof That The Universe Had A Beginning
gizmodo.com/.../mathematic-proof-that-the-universe-had-a-beg...
Gizmodo
Apr 24, 2012 - Now, math has set one thing straight: our universe definitely had a start. ... close look at the concept of a universe that has no beginning or end.
5. 'Ripples' of the Big Bang reveal the beginning of the universe
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/.../ripp...ginning-univer...
PBS
Mar 18, 2014 - But what exactly happened at the start of the universe has been unconfirmed until now. With a radio telescope at the South Pole, scientists ...
6. Does Big Bang Cosmology Prove the Universe Had a ...
infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/bigbang.html
The big bang model also teaches that the universe had a beginning. ... have long known yet somehow failed to communicate adequately to the public, as much ...
7. Mathematics of Eternity Prove The Universe Must Have Had ...
www.technologyreview.com/.../mathematics-of...
MIT Technology Review
Apr 24, 2012 - Cosmologists use the mathematical properties of eternity to show that although universe may last forever, it must have had a beginning.
8. The Universe is Not Eternal, But Had A Beginning
www.godandscience.org/apologetics/beginning.html
Jan 12, 2012 - "The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, ...
9. Beginning of the Universe - Beginning of Time
www.everystudent.com/wires/universe.html
Scientists confirm the Big Bang Theory and the beginning of the universe. ... He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; ...
10. Scientific Evidence the Universe had a Beginning
http://www.harvardhouse.com/Scientif..._Beginning.htm
Before the 1920s, most people believed that the universe did not have a beginning. People thought the universe was eternal. And few people ever thought that ...
For “the universe has always existed”:
About 2,980,000 results (0.38 seconds)
Search Results
- 1. The Beginning of Time - Stephen Hawking
www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html
Stephen Hawking
All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a ... The Second Law, states that disorder always increases with time.
2. Could the Universe Have Always Existed? - Articles ...
iolanche.com/could-the-universe-have-always-existed/
Sep 1, 2014 - “Because it is possible for the entire universe to cease to exist, ... Even if the universe has always existed and was uncaused (i.e., the view of ...
3. The universe has always existed.? - Yahoo Answers
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid...
Aug 4, 2011 - Well, ..., no that is not the case. The Universe has not always existed. Even the initial singularity (that began our universe) did not always exist.
Is it illogical to believe the universe has always existed?
8 answers
10 Oct 2014
If God can always exist, why can't the universe have ...
19 answers
10 Apr 2011
Is it possible that the universe has always existed ...
11 answers
3 Nov 2010
Has the universe always existed? - Yahoo Answers
13 answers
13 Aug 2006
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4. The universe has always existed | Physicalism
physicalism.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/the-universe-has-always-existed/
Feb 14, 2012 - In most religions, God is claimed to have always existed. The Universe may have always existed. So put these theories together… It seems we ...
5. Answering Atheism: The Universe has always existed ...
► 1:57► 1:57
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAnlF44y2CE
Sep 23, 2013 - Uploaded by Catholic Answers
http://www.answeringatheism.com/ Today's popular champions of atheism are often called New Atheists ...
6. Challenge: Has the Universe Always Existed? - YouTube
► 6:27► 6:27
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc77EZqryg4
May 27, 2011 - Uploaded by Brett Kunkle
STRplace.org -- Has the universe always existed or does it have a beginning? Brett interacts with your ...
7. Eternal universe - creation.com
creation.com/eternal-universe
Creation Ministries International
Mar 2, 2013 - Feedback on whether the universe has always existed, with discussion of the nature of God, set theory, matter/energy and materialism.
8. The Universe has always existed (Earth, light, Sun, theory ...
www.city-data.com › ... › Science and Technology › Space
City Data
Nov 25, 2011 - 10 posts - 5 authors
Where did the universe come from? Personally, I agree with a lot of what this author has written. The premise is 'nothing' does not exist, ...
9. A THEORY OF THE UNIVERSE - The Contest Center
www.contestcen.com/universe.htm
Under this new theory, the universe has always existed, and space extends outward forever. Matter is distributed throughout the universe, far beyond what we ...
10. Has the universe always existed? - The Science and Philosophy Forums
sciencechatforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=15756
Jun 18, 2010 - 30 posts - 5 authors
10) Therefore, the universe has always existed. Are my premises and conclusions logically valid, or have I made a serious mistake somewhere ...
Do you notice, there are about 86,700,000 results for universe has a beginning vs about 2,980,000 results for universe having always existed.
What do we infer from these hits on respectively each phrase of the universe with beginning and the universe always existing?
Here is what I infer on the facts as disclosed by google and from logical thinking:
- There are 96.6770% of scientists writing in the web ascribing to universe with a beginning vs only a scant 3.3229% of unknown scientists for universe having always existed.
What do you say, atheists, don’t the figures translate to
96.6770% certainty of the universe having a beginning, which means in common human understanding, mankind starting with scientists know for sure that the universe has a beginning, just like the nose in our face has a beginning -- I mean if the universe were only the size of our nose, then we are certain of the universe having a beginning as we are certain of our nose having a beginning.
So, atheists, no more dodging and muddling up the issue, what are your critical comments to my finding that the universe has a beginning, and therefore it has need of a cause to come to existence, that is the fact and the logic.
When you write next, please do not anymore go into dodging and muddling up the issue of this thread, talk about or in critique of the universe has a beginning therefore it needs God to bring it to existence.