The whole concept of afterlife offered by the Bible is kinda ridiculous, isn't it? I mean, you can't just split all the people in two groups based mainly on whether they believe some bull**** stories OTHER PEOPLE told them to believe or not. So if I'm a good, kind, friendly man who thinks the Bible and indeed all the other religious fairytales in the world are nothing but manipulation tools, will I spend my eternity with Hitler? Cause there are really only two optios see, you are either good or you are bad. Can't really imagine how eternal hellfire could be any punishment though, since a man's soul can't really feel any pain without peripheral neuroreceptors. And what good are those hot blonde chicks with big tits up there in heaven to me if I can't **** them?

Can't believe anyone ever fell for this crap anyway.

Heaven - an eternity - didn't they ever see Groundhog Day?

Imagine your best day ever........and then living through it for just a month would really take the shine off of it wouldn't it?

BORING!

I'm aiming for nothingness.

But now imagine if the shine never dulled!

I think it is a complete non sequitur when people (such as Christopher Hitchens) claim that they can imagine heaven, and they think it sucks. This is a stupid claim. The nature of magical fantasy land is that you can imagine whatever you want, and then add to that "and in heaven, you won't think this sucks -- you'll love every second of it!"

The real answer is simply that make believe isn't real, even if we feel it in our hearts. Just because we can imagine something (or at least, say the words, even if it doesn't make sense), does not mean it is real, or a possibility. Our feelings do not create reality, even though it is a natural impulse in children to some degree or another to believe that they do, which as adults we out grow for the most part -- obviously we don't completely outgrow it, or I imagine we'd have two less reasons to be communicating in this forum: no religion, and no gambling!

Of course, there are some adults who continue to think whatever they feel, even outside the confines of religion, makes reality. They are usually considered mentally ill.

Do we have bodies in heaven?

I thought heaven was more of a feeling.

IM going to HELL whos going with me?????

No quoting Eminem.

There is no need to be worried by facetious people who try to make the Christian hope of "Heaven"
ridiculous by saying they do not want "to spend eternity playing harps." The answer to such people is
that if they cannot understand books written for grown-ups, they should not talk about them. All the
scriptural imagery (harps, crowns, gold, etc.) is, of course, a merely symbolical attempt to express the
inexpressible. Musical instruments are mentioned because for many people (not all) music is the thing
known in the present life which most strongly suggests ecstasy and infinity.

Crowns are mentioned to suggest the fact that those who are united with God in eternity share His
splendour and power and joy. Gold is mentioned to suggest the timelessness of Heaven (gold does not
rust) and the preciousness of it. People who take these symbols literally might as well think that when
Christ told us to be like doves, He meant that we were to lay eggs.

-- C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

You should probably read some of the Bible before making posts like this.

Hitler said he was a Christian so if he asked for forgiveness hes in the fun place. But you will get to meet the mahatma.

LOL why does a soul need neuroreceptors to feel pain.

But if you read it and look into historical scholarship surrounding its origins and compilation you're left wondering why some ******* turned Sheol into Hell.

This is true, incidentally. Receptors are not necessary for pain. The brain can experience pain all by itself.

Sheol, Hell, Tarturus, the Abyss....these are all relevant.

These are very important distinctions. I'm not of the opinion that all these are the same.

No ****, sherlock. So why do most (ignorant) Christians believe that it's either heaven, or hell?

Why? So one could argue with religious people over what it really said and that they could googletard an MD writing with his "doctor" title only that the hebrew word for "pebble" is falsely translated into the swiss word for "hedgehog"?

I've read the bible and probably been too more bible study groups than most of the religious posters on this board, and the only thing that gets you is a whole lot of screaming that "you hate god" , "try reading the bible" and "it's impossible for you to get it".

We can just go with the stereotypes. I, for one, certainly don't care anymore. Almost all Christianity is only loosely and selectively based on the bible anyway.

One way to find out right now...

Nice.

*grunch*


hell

More and more people are waking up to the realization that all scripture and religious doctrine is written by men with political motives and they hold no real relevance to our lives in this age, they have acted purely as a mask to reality and a way of controlling the populace.

It is a sign that the human collective consciousness is waking up at last and freeing its mind, this in itself has implications for governments, faiths, communities, families and the structure of society. Freethinking at last.

From what I have learned in every funeral (even the dog's) I have been to, heaven is just one giant (and eternal!) family get-together.

I find family-reunions to be quite boring

But think with a mind that is similar to that of Jesus and we will be nearer to a pure state of being.

Who cares. Punishment for the sake of punishment is immoral and evil whether it's done to Hitler or Jesus. The very concept of hell, pointless infinite pain for eternity, is the most abhorrent idea conceivable.