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03-14-2014 , 08:20 PM

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so he either is an idiot, isnt an idiot , or is both an idiot and not an idiot?

He's heisenberg's villiage's idiot?

And yes, the above was an apparantly much needed lesson on apostrophes.

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03-14-2014 , 08:22 PM

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I don't know what you mean by exclusive yet.

Is it possible for things to fall into two categories at the same time.

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Superstition, is because we are not sure the truth of non 0 in the god variable.

This is an odd concept of superstition.

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If we are not sure if something is godly in its origins or just superstitious belief, it can still be said to fall in one or the other.

Can it fall into both?

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03-14-2014 , 08:27 PM

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Can it fall into both?

Pretty clear it falls into both/neither. To prove this, just take e to the i newguy, add the Holy One, and you get nothing/everything.

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03-14-2014 , 08:38 PM

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I think science is rather boring. Basically science is observing and studying the past to make predictions about the future, science is essentially prophecy. So once you know the future and what is going to happen, its all rather boring.

What happens to your thoughts here, when you spend time getting rid of this aversion to boredom. When you can just to a boring thing without claiming like or dislike of it?

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03-14-2014 , 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by uke_master

I don't think the word 'formula' means what you think it means.

no, we are skewing the normal use of words to communicate faster, y'all are just slow at it, but you can learnt.

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03-14-2014 , 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron W.

Is it possible for things to fall into two categories at the same time.

right

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This is an odd concept of superstition.

then you don't have to prove which is which or go against someones belief yet.

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Can it fall into both?

We haven't gone that far. We haven't put things in a category or decided them at all, just set up the division.

But I think not.

Unless we merge them...

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03-14-2014 , 08:52 PM

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He's heisenberg's villiage's idiot?
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The idiot belonging to the village belonging to heisenberg?

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03-14-2014 , 08:54 PM

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What happens to your thoughts here, when you spend time getting rid of this aversion to boredom. When you can just to a boring thing without claiming like or dislike of it?

I become a stone buddha.

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03-14-2014 , 09:01 PM

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I become a stone buddha.

is it irony that we judge boredom in relation to the self?

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03-14-2014 , 09:10 PM

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No good. No bad. Vast emptiness, nothing holy. No-doing, no-action, no non-action. An eternal witness to a happening with no judging with no self. But witness it does, if not boring then what?

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03-14-2014 , 09:12 PM

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... if not boring then what?

to not ask or answer this.

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03-14-2014 , 09:17 PM

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but witness do you?

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03-14-2014 , 09:23 PM

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but witness do you?

again, to not ask or answer this.

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03-14-2014 , 09:26 PM

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Empty. Void. Nothingness. Boring. The best words to use is to say nothing at all.

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03-14-2014 , 09:37 PM

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Empty. Void. Nothingness. Boring. The best words to use is to say nothing at all.

Right. should we examine then, the 'me' that says this to 'you'

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03-14-2014 , 09:40 PM

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to not ask or answer this.

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03-14-2014 , 09:46 PM

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to not ask or answer this.

so then do we solve our own boredom by ignoring others suffering, what about syrians?

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03-14-2014 , 09:50 PM

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suffering is good or bad? No good. No bad.

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03-14-2014 , 09:53 PM

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suffering is good or bad? No good. No bad.

the worry is we've taught ourselves that (not to judge suffering) through whatever means we needed (gurus, time, experience, self reflection), simply so we can avoid the truth that our ignorance to others pain is the root cause of it.

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03-14-2014 , 09:58 PM

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you take suffering out of the world. and i will take mount fuji out of a pill box

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03-14-2014 , 10:01 PM

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you take suffering out of the world. and i will take mount fuji out of a pill box

how is it this world is possible but taking the suffering out is not?

others can have their take on this as well.

To any (who might) answer I also ask, have you justified it for the reason of not facing the fact that world suffering is cause by 'my' (for AW 'your' 'we' 'our') individual ignorance to it?

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03-14-2014 , 10:05 PM

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take black out of white. take heads away from tails. take bad away just leave the good.

you soon find out you can't have one without the other.

take suffering out of the world. it can not be done.

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03-14-2014 , 10:12 PM

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take black out of white. take heads away from tails. take bad away just leave the good.

you soon find out you can't have one without the other.

take suffering out of the world. it can not be done.

Can we question that? It has to follow the rules of colors and coins?

Why might we magically exist, but can't do it in peace/nonsuffering?

Is it maybe just a conditioned belief it has to be this way?

Can we address the issue without causing our own suffering and want to run from facing our own ignorance?

It might be that you are right, you can't take the bad from the good, but if its not right, then its a crutch to suggest it.

Can we know that helping others is futile, but give our own quest up for them anyways (not saying i have)?

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03-14-2014 , 10:17 PM

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maybe it can be done. take left away from right but keep going right, keep walking right and you end up on the left.

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03-14-2014 , 10:19 PM

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maybe it can be done.

is there a more important question?

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